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From Danny’s Files: Who Paid for Aunt Johanna’s Glenmore Funeral?
In Danny Dowling’s (1927-2021) voluminous files is a folder Danny simply labelled “Joe Flynn of Busherstown”. Within the file were several old letters, four from a woman named Anna to “Mr. Flynn.” Three are typewritten and one is handwritten and dated 7 September 1935. The two-page typewritten letter is dated Friday, 27 February 1942 and one of the shorter one-page typewritten letters is dated 26 September 1935. Another one-page typewritten letter is undated. Our focus today is on the two-page typewritten letter, but relevant excerpts from the other letters will be utilized to try to identify the author Anna, her mother, her mother’s people in Glenmore and Mr. Flynn. This letter highlights the difficulty of communications during World War II as well as the tragic circumstances of emigration for those who emigrated and those who stayed. Thanks to the Census records in Ireland and the US we have been able to gain insight into the struggles of the sister who remained and the sister who emigrated.
Letter of Friday, 27 February 1942
Dear Mr. Flynn,
Mother received your letter, dated January 18th, this morning, and evidently my letter written around the latter part of January, has not reached you. Your letter was addressed to 1285 Merriam Avenue, but Mother moved from that apartment four years ago, and, as noted in my letter to you, her address is now 1315 Merriam Avenue.
To say Mother was grieved about the collection fund for the burial of Aunt Johanna is really using the term mildly. In all her years here in America (I think she came in 1888), she never once forgot her people at home. Times were hard with her when we were young, but I can remember when I was ten or twelve years of age, I knew how to get to the post office and fill out the money order blanks for the little, she was able, at that time, to send home to Ireland.
Last November she sent five dollars to Aunt Johanna, which probably arrived in late December. When she received a letter from Mrs. Power, regarding Aunt Johanna’s death, and this letter was dated January 14th (later on in this letter I am going to incorporate contents of two letters received from Mrs. Power, so that you may know.) Mother had my sister Madeline send another five dollars to Mrs. Power, pending receipt of further word from her as to the amount of the burial expenses incurred.
I wrote to you incorrectly when I stated Mother had had a lettr from Mrs. Fitzgerald—both were from Mrs. Power, and I misunderstood her, in the telephone conversation she made to my home that day.
Now Mr. Flynn, I am going to quote the first letter received from Mrs. Power, which was dated January 8th
‘I am so sorry to have sad news about Johanna. I got word from the
sister in care of her, saying she was bad in hospital and she wants
to know what I am going to do with regard to her burial. If anything
happens to her, would you please give me some little help to bury
her in her own place. Everything is very dear here for a funeral expense.
She has no friend to look after her by myself. You might be thinking
about Mr. Flynn but he never went near her for the past 7 years.
As I wrote to you before about her, I think you will have two letters.
I am after spending 3/15/0 on her this past six months, trying to
get nourishment, but I don’t mind that if you would give me a little
help to cover the cost of her expenses.
Could you cable and let me know what to do—just a little to help
me as she is the last of you all here I would like to see her brought
from Kilkenny to Glenmore to be buried.’
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Mr. Flynn this next letter from Mrs. Power was dated January 14th, two days after Aunt Johanna had passed away
‘Just a few lines to let you know that Johanna died on Monday,
the 12th of January. I have written to you before about her ill-
ness, hoping you got that letter. Now, Mrs. Murphy, I asked you
in my last letter if you would help me bury her. I am sending you
the bill.’
Let me interrupt here Mr. Flynn. We have received no bill as yet, and Madeline, when she wrote Mrs. Power, asked her to obtain one from Mrs. Fitzgerald. The mails are delayed considerably, and I know we will hear in some way from her, but in this letter which I am going to continue to quote, you will note she makes no mention of any subscription fund which she made…
‘to let you know how much it cost me to bring her home from
Kilkenny. I Did everying (sic) possible for her as she had no
friends that would spend one shilling on her. I went to Mrs.
Fitzgerald, the undertaker, and got everything from her, and
paid for it, so I said I would send you the bill so that you would
believe me. I got mass said the morning she died, and mass
said the morning of the funeral. I paid the bell man, and the
two men who made the grave so you can see I Did every-
thing that I could do for her. I hate looking for money but
you can understand that it cost me a good sum to do all
this for her. I am sending this by air so that you would
get it. I am sure this will be a shock to hear of her death
but God knows best. From your sister’s only friend—’
I do not know what else to comment, Mr. Flynn. Mrs. Power seems to have done many kind things and Mother is grateful. But this collection fund has disturbed her considerably and is there any way we could ascertain what moneys were paid in, and by whom, so that these people could be reimbursed for their kindness. We want to take care of this debt, and I do know that if you had been called in, it never would have happened.
Mother was so happy this morning to receive your lovely letter of sympathy. She knows all through these years of your faithful friendship, and naturally anything you might write us, on this matter, will never be divulged to Mrs. Power, in any way. We will not send any further money until we get a bona fide bill from Mrs. Fitzgerald, or until you may have further word for us. In ever grateful appreciation, Anna.’
Other Letters
In the letter of 27 February [without a year] Anna wrote to Mr. Flynn that she used to send newspapers to Uncle John when he was alive, and she worked for a publisher.
In the handwritten letter of 7 September 1935 Anna asked Mr. Flynn how her Aunt Johanna was doing. She then noted that her sister Frances had married that summer. Anna also mentioned that her brother-in-law, George Maloney, was living with them as her sister Alice died 14 years ago “next February”.
Anna was purchasing Irish Sweepstakes tickets through Mr. Flynn. The Irish Hospital Sweepstakes started in 1930. See, RTE (2026) “The Rise and Fall of the Biggest Lottery in the World.”
Mrs. Fitzgerald the Undertaker
We shall begin with the easiest person to identify. We believe that Mrs. Fitzgerald was the wife of Tom Fitzgerald of Weatherstown (1862 -1935). See, our post of 8 December 2019 regarding local funeral practices and a paragraph concerning Tom Fitzgerald and his undertaking premises and butcher shop on the Quay, New Ross.
The Flynn Family of Busherstown, Glenmore
Joe Flynn of Busherstown, Glenmore, was the name Danny Dowling had placed on the file containing the letters sent from Anna to “Mr. Flynn”. Joseph Flynn was born 30 September 1908. He attended Glenmore National School with Thomas Walsh (1908-1992) of Rathinure, and formerly Davidstown. Tom described Joe Flynn as the best dressed boy at school. Tom told his son Peter that Joe’s father was a sort of agent.
Patrick Flynn (1874-1956) of Busherstown, Glenmore
Joseph Flynn’s parents were Patrick Flynn (1874-1956) and his wife Catherine “Kate” Malone (1870-1953). The couple were married at Rosbercon on 28 October 1898. Patrick Flynn was the son of Michael Flynn (farmer) of Jamestown and his wife Anastatia Gaule. Kate was the daughter of Joseph Malone of Coolien and his wife, Catherine Howlett. In the 1911 Census, for Busherstown, Patrick Flynn (37) was working as an agricultural labourer living with his wife, Kate (39); Joseph (2) and the household also contained Catherine Malone (79) Patrick’s widowed mother-in-law. The Census states that Patrick and Catherine were married 12 years and had two children, but only one child was alive in 1911.
A few months after the 1911 Census, Catherine Malone (c. 1829 -1911) died at Busherstown on 20 August 1911 aged 82 years. Patrick Flynn, her son-in-law, was present at her death. The 1926 Census provides that Patrick Flynn (54) was working as a carpenter, his wife Kate was 54; Joseph was 17 and Anastatia Flynn was 13.
It is unlikely that Joe Flynn (1908-1986) was the Mr. Flynn that Anna was corresponding with. Joe Flynn (1908-1986) married Bridget Walsh of Ryleen, New Ross at St. Mary’s of New Ross on 13 June 1934. Per Bridget Flynn née Walsh’s (c. 1911-1991) obituary the couple left the area in 1936 and eventually settled in Macroom, Co. Cork (New Ross Standard, Thur. 21 Nov. 1991, p. 24). See our F Surname Family page for the short Flynn obituaries. Anna was still corresponding with Mr. Flynn regarding her Aunt Johanna’s death in 1942. We believe that Mr. Flynn was Mr. Patrick Flynn, Joe Flynn’s father.
Clerk of the Kilmakevogue Old Age Pensioners
We did not locate any records regarding Patrick being an agent, but we did find that he sought a post in the 1930’s to collect rent for the County Council. However, he did serve as clerk of the Kilmakevogue Old Age Pensioners’ sub-committee for the Kilkenny Co. Council. It is not known when he took up this post, but in 1945 he was granted an increase in his salary to £10 per annum (Kilkenny Journal, Sat. 12 May 1945, p. 6).
Patrick remained in this post until early September 1956 when he resigned from it and also resigned as the temporary clerk of the Dysertmoon OAP Sub-committee due to “impaired health.” It was stated that “in both positions he gave general satisfaction and was most efficient in the discharge of his duties. His many friends wish him a speedy recovery to health” (Kilkenny Journal, Sat. 8 Sept. 1956, p. 8).
Two months later, Patrick Flynn (widower) died on 11 November 1956 at Butlerstown, Waterford, at the home of his son, Joseph Flynn. Patrick wife, Catherine Flynn née Malone (c. 1879-1953) died 8 December 1953 at the age of 77. Patrick was present when she died at Busherstown, Glenmore. No obituary could be located for either Patrick or Catherine Flynn. Their names are recorded on a headstone in St. James’s Cemetery, Glenmore, without a date of birth or death.
Aunt Johanna of Glenmore
We located in the death register a death of a woman named Johanna on 12 January 1942. Johanna Walsh, Glenmore, spinster, aged 65, died in the County Home on 12 January 1942.
We believe that Aunt Johanna was Johanna Walsh born to Thomas Walsh (labourer) and his wife Margaret Grant on 24 April 1876 at Busherstown, Glenmore. Thomas Walsh, of Ballyreddy, married Margaret Grant on 30 May 1859 at Rosbercon.
Children of Thomas Walsh & Margaret Walsh née Grant
The following known children were born to this couple:
[1] Mary Walsh (b. 21 Jan. 1860)
[2] Catherine Walsh (bapt 11 June 1862)
[3] John Walsh (b. 12 Aug. 1867)
[4] Bridget Walsh (b. 11 Nov. 1867) emigrated to US.
[5] Ellen Walsh (b. 3 March 1870)
[6] Margaret Walsh (b. 31 Dec. 1871)
[7] Anastatia Walsh (b. 8 Oct. 1873) m. John Gaul (b.c. 1867) of Knockbrack on 5 June 1893.
[8] Johanna Walsh (b. 24 April 1876) Never married; died 12 January 1942.
[9] Alice Walsh (b. 17 Feb. 1879)
The Decline of the Thomas Walsh Family of Busherstown, Glenmore
The Census records reflect that the family grew then went into decline. In the 1901 Census there were a dozen people living in the Walsh home in Busherstown. Thomas was 69, and his wife Margaret was 60. Mary Walsh was 34; Alice Walsh was 21 and their daughter Anastatia Gaul was 27. Also present was her husband John Gaul (36) and their 5 children. Another granddaughter Bridget Phelan (1) was also in the home.
In the 1911 Census, Thomas Walsh was 77, Margaret was 74 and two unmarried daughters were also present: Johanna (34) and Alice (32). A granddaughter Bridget Walsh was also present and aged 11. In the 1926 Census the only members of the family left in Busherstown were Johanna Walsh (50) living with her mother Margaret (90). Margaret died on 28 February 1927 at Busherstown as a 94 year-old widow. Her daughter Alice was present when she died although she was not living in the home in 1926.
We found a John Walsh, aged 69, (b.c. 1865) who died on 3 March 1934 at Busherstown. He was a widower, and his sister Johanna Walsh was present at his death in Busherstown. He died of pneumonia. Johanna was the last of her family to reside in Busherstown.
Bridget Murphy née Walsh (1867-1953) native of Busherstown, Glenmore
With the information that Anna provided regarding the death of her sister, Alice in February 1922, and her brother-in-law’s name George Maloney, it was relatively easy to find Alice Veronica Maloney née Murphy. Alice was born on 2 June 1897 in New York City. Alice died 24 February 1922. She is buried in Woodside, Queens, New York with her father and mother. See Findagrave .
George Thomas Maloney married Alice Veronica Murphy, aged 22, on 18 June 1919 at Sts. Peter and Paul of the Bronx. The groom was a 24-year-old accountant born in New York City to Michael Maloney and his wife Bridget Tracey. The bride was the daughter of William Murphy (c.1866 -1906) and his wife Bridget Walsh (1867-1953).
The 1900 Census
The 1900 Census provides that William J. Murphy and his wife Bridget Murphy had been married for ten years. William J. Murphy was 34 and emigrated to the US in 1890 while Bridget was 32 and emigrated in 1887. In 1900 William was employed as a bricklayer. The couple had 5 children, but only 4 were living in 1900.
William J. Murphy died in 1906 leaving Bridget with six children to raise from 14 to 3 years of age. The 1910 Census shows that Bridget was employed as a housekeeper for an industry called “flat house.” This apparently meant that she was employed in a tenement that could house garment makers etc. Her eldest child Joseph Patrick Murphy was 18 and employed as a bricklayer. Mary Murphy at 15 was employed as a dry good packer. Her youngest four daughters were attending school. In the 1910 Census Bridget reported that she emigrated in 1888.
The Children of Glenmore Native Bridget Murphy née Walsh (1867-1953)
All of Bridget’s children were born in the Bronx, New York City.
[1] Joseph Patrick Murphy (1890- ) worked as a bricklayer
[2] Mary A. Murphy (1896– ) m. Thomas Cullen.
[3] Alice Veronica Murphy (1897-1922) m. George T. Maloney (b.c. 1895)
[4] Madeline Murphy (1899- )
[4 ] Anna Murphy (1901- )
[5] Frances Murphy (1904- ) Worked as a telephone operator. Married in the summer of 1935.
1930 Census
In the 1930 Census, Anna Murphy is listed as the Head of the Household. Anna is 28 years of age and employed as a stenographer for a publishing house. Her sister Frances is 26 and employed as a telephone operator. Her mother Bridget is 60 and not employed. On the 1930 form Bridget’s year of immigration is 1890. Anna’s sister Madeline is 30 and is employed as a stenographer. Also in the home is George Maloney, her brother-in-law. George is a 34 year-old widower employed as a salesman for National Cash Register.
The 1940 Census
In 1940 Bridget Murphy née Walsh was 72 and living with her was her widowed son Patrick Murphy (49) who was employed as a bricklayer with the WPA. George Maloney her son-in-law was 45 and was employed as a dental caster? Also, in the household were two of Bridget’s grandchildren: Thomas Cullen (21) a bank cashier and Audrey Cullen (19) a dental nurse. All reported that they lived at the same address in 1935. This was the last Census in which we could locate Bridget Murphy née Walsh. We could not locate an obituary. On the brink of WWII we sought to determine what happened to her grandson Thomas F. Cullen.
Thomas Francis Cullen (1918-2000)
Thomas Francis Cullen of Merriam Ave., New York registered for the draft. He was 22 years of age having been born at New York on 11 Sept. 1918 He listed his father, Thomas Francis Cullen of 11 Ann St. E. White Planes, Westchester, New York, as the person who would always know his address. He was employed at the Central Hanover Bank and Trust Co. He was described as 5’ 11 ¾” tall, weighed 140 pounds with Brown eyes, brown hair and a light complexion.
According to his obituary (The Record (Havensack, N.J.) Mon. 28 Aug. 2000, p. 24) he died aged 81and was a resident of Leonia. “Before retiring in 1981, he was a senior vice president at Manufacturers Hanover Trust Co., New York City, where he worked for 45 years. He was an army veteran of World War II and the Korean War. He was a graduate of Rutgers University in New Brunswick.”
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Dr. Kathleen Moore Walsh
The featured photo above is an old Irish Sweepstakes ticket.
Glenmore Man Killed 120 Years Ago on the U.S.S. Bennington
Historian, Damian Shiels, on 25 November 2025 posted an interactive map with biographical information and addresses for over 700 people in Ireland who received U.S. pensions. His work is entitled, American Pensioners in Ireland c. 1845-1905. Shiels spent 15 years researching the U.S. pension files. These payments from the U.S. were based on military service rendered between c. 1845 and 1905. About 80 percent of the pensions were the result of participation in the American Civil War.
Many of the pensions were paid to the widows of men who died while serving in the military or to mothers who were dependent on their sons who were killed. Some were paid to the veterans themselves who were wounded or injured while serving. It is a fascinating resource. Thanks to this work, we found a pension made to a Glenmore woman, Mrs. Margaret Quinn, of Rathinure, Glenmore. Her son Michael George Quinn was serving with the U.S. Marines when he died on 21 July 1905 in San Diego harbour. His ship the U.S.S. Bennington’s boiler exploded killing 66 crew (Shiels, 2025).
The 1905 U.S.S. Bennington Disaster
The U.S.S. Bennington (gunboat No. 4) was named for an important battle of the American Revolutionary War fought in Vermont in 1777. She was a 1700-ton gunboat of the Yorktown class. The ship was built at Chester, Pennsylvania, and commissioned in June 1891. Originally the ship served in the Atlantic and Europe, but was transferred to the Pacific in 1894. After the catastrophic boiler explosion on 21 July 1905 the ship was not repaired and sold for scrap in 1910. See the video “Revisiting the U.S.S. Bennington Explosion 120 Years Later” (ABC & San Diego History Center (2025)).
According to the Navy Casualties: Lost and Wrecked Ships, 1801-1941—Explosions 1804-194—Steam Casualties, 1855-1941, on 21 July 1905 when the U.S.S. Bennington exploded 62 service men were killed and 3 officers. “At 10:38 a.m. an explosion occurred in port fireroom compartment of the vessel, listing the ship to starboard. The ship shook violently for several seconds, large volumes of steam and ashes filling most of the living compartments and deck spaces.” A list of the men killed included “Quinn, Michael George, Oiler.”
Contemporary newspaper articles provide graphic details of the condition of some of the bodies found in the engine room. The crew had just finished loading coal and most were in their quarters cleaning up when the boiler exploded. Unfortunately, the crew quarters were over the boilers. The crew killed were buried in Ft. Rosecrans National Cemetery. Quinn was buried in Section Bm site 28. To view his grave see Find-a-grave.
Notwithstanding the 1905 tragedy, the U.S. named an aircraft carrier the U.S.S. Bennington. The aircraft carrier served in the Pacific during World War II. After a refitting the U.S.S. Bennington (aircraft carrier) suffered an explosion in 1954. An old newsreel covering the 1954 disaster revealed that the aircraft carrier also suffered an explosion the year before. Both of these explosions on the aircraft carrier resulted in loss of crew and serious injuries. All three of the Bennington explosions discussed above occurred during peacetime.
Prior to Joining the Marines
According to the concise biography written by Damian Shiels, Michael Quinn was a 29-year-old fireman when he enlisted at Boston, Massachusetts on 24 September 1903. He served aboard U.S.S. Wabash, U.S.S. Cleveland, U.S.S. Straggler, U.S.S. Independence and U.S.S. Bennington. Shiels also noted that Margaret Quinn (née Conway) was 55 when she applied for the pension in 1906. She was married at Glenmore to Thomas Quinn on 28 October 1869. Thomas Quinn died at Glenmore on 10 November 1902. Margaret Quinn (née Conway) died on 5 December 1914 (Shiels, 2025).
Today, it is generally thought that a fireman is a fire fighter. During the age of steam a fireman was the person who maintained the fire needed to produce the steam. Steam engines were used on railways and on ships. Buildings, particularly in cities with cold winters, heated with steam boilers.
The Battle of the Boston Papers
At least two Boston papers printed obituaries of Michael G. Quinn (1874-1905) just three days after his death. It is obvious that the Boston Globe was attempting to locate Quinn family members and published several false statements. For example, the entire Quinn family did not emigrate. There were photos published by each newspaper allegedly of the deceased Michael G. Quinn (1874-1905). The two photographs do not appear to depict the same man. The men do not part their hair on the same side and one has straight hair and the other does not. Given that the Boston Herald actually interviewed the deceased’s brother Patrick Quinn we believe that the photo in the Boston Herald is the correct photo.
Obituary in the Boston Globe (Sun. 23 July 1905, p. 7)
MICHAEL G. QUINN—Bennington victim was a member of Jeffries Point R.A. [Rowing Association], and one of Winning Four at Centennial Grove. Michael G. Quinn one of the victims of Friday’s explosion on the Bennington, was one of the best known young men of East Boston, and one who had figured prominently in athletics.
Quinn was born in the town of Glenmore, County Kilkenny, Ireland, and was 32 years old. At the age of 12 years young Quinn with his parents and brothers and sisters, came to this country and since most of his years had been spent in East Boston.
In September 1903, he enlisted in the U.S. Navy being assigned from the Charlestown Navy Yard to the U.S.S. Cleveland. He served on the Cleveland till April last, when he was transferred to the Bennington. Quinn was a member of Jeffries Point rowing association of East Boston, and two years ago was a member of the four oared crew of the club which won the race at Centennial Grove.
The day before the Boston Globe printed that the deceased Michael G. Quinn had a sister Kate Quinn in East Boston. She formerly lived on Pleasant Street, Winthrop, but she moved to East Boston and could not be located. A brother of was said to live in Somerville (Boston Globe, Sat. 22 July 1905, p. 3).
Obituary in the Boston Herald (Sun. 23 July 1905, p. 4)
Michael G. Quinn, one of the victims of the Bennington disaster, was well known in East Boston, having been a member of the junior four-oared crew of the Jeffries Point Rowing Association which won at Centennial Lake in 1902. His brother, Patrick Quinn, of 88 Marginal Street, East Boston, is a member of the intermediate four of the same association and was to have rowed with that crew in the Metropolitan regatta yesterday, but on receipt of the dispatch from the secretary of the Navy announcing his brother’s death, he retired, and his place was taken by substitute Frank Walsh.
The man killed was born in Waterford, Ireland, about 30 years ago. He came to this country when a lad of 15 years and lived in New York for about a year, when he went to sea finally becoming a member of the British naval reserve. At the break out of the Boer War he volunteered in the Grenadier Guards and served in South Africa under Lord Roberts, taking part in the siege of Kimberly, where although in the thick of the fight, he escaped injury. At the close of his enlistment period, he received a Boer war medal and then returned to this country, making his home with his brother in East Boston. He worked for the Cunard company, and also as a fireman for the Merchants and Miners’ company.
In October 1903, he enlisted in the navy and did duty on board the Wabash, and later at the Brooklyn Navy Yard. Then he was assigned to the Cleveland, when that vessel was accepted by the government, and remained on board her until she was sent to join the European squadron. The last letter his brother received from him came from Florida in April. In it he stated he expected to come north in time to be in Boston for the Fourth of July. Since then he had not been heard from.
His mother and one sister still live in Ireland; a brother lives in Bristol, England; his brother Patrick, as stated, lives in East Boston; a sister Mrs. James Howland, lives at 63 Everett Street, East Boston, and another sister, Nora Quinn, lives in Somerville. [This obituary was also published in the Derry Journal (Wed. 9 Aug. 1905, p. 1) but we were unable to locate it or another obituary in newspapers local to Glenmore.]
The Quinn Families of Rathinure, Glenmore
There were two Quinn brothers, and their families, that resided in Rathinure in the late 19th century. Thomas and Patrick Quinn were sons of Stephen Quinn and his wife Catherine Haberlin. Stephen Quinn and Catherine Haberlin were married on 11 February 1834 at Glenmore. They resided and farmed in Coolnaleen, Glenmore. There were six known children born to this couple: [1] Patrick Quinn (1835-1906); [2] Honor Quinn (b. 1836); [3] Richard Quinn (b. 1839); [4] Mary Quinn (b. 1842); [5] Thomas Quinn (1843-1903); and [6] James Quinn (b. 1846).
Patrick Quinn (1835-1906) of Rathinure, Glenmore
Patrick Quinn (1835-1906) was baptized 16 March 1835 to Stephen Quinn and his wife Catherine Haberlin at Glenmore. Patrick Quinn of Rathanure (sic) married Ellen Tracy of Ballyfacy (sic) on 24 February 1873 at Glenmore. The bride’s father was George Tracy (a smyth (sic)) and her mother was Catherine Conway. George Tracy, of Haggard, married Catherine Conway on 8 February 1843 at Slieverue. Ellen Tracy was baptised at Ballinlammy, Glenmore on 17 March 1847.
Patrick Quinn died at the age of 80 in the Waterford Workhouse Hospital on 29 July 1906 of hemiplegia. In other words, one side of his body was paralyzed. His widow, Ellen Quinn née Tracy (1847-1932) continued to live in their small house until she went to live with a daughter. The small house where Patrick and Ellen lived was to the east of Sean Óg Kennedy’s (c. 1885-1962) house (where Johnny Garvey presently lives). The house in the 1901 Census was described as one room. It was owned by Patrick Quinn. Ellen Quinn née Tracy’s Memory Card is recorded on our Memory Card page.
Children of Patrick Quin and Ellen Tracy of Rathinure, Glenmore
The following children were identified in the parish and civil birth records: [1] Unnamed child (1874); [2] Honor “Nora” Quinn (1875); [3] Stephen Quinn (1876); [4] George Quinn (1878); [5] Catherine Quinn (1880); and [6] Honor Quinn (1883). In the 1911 Census, Ellen Quin née Tracy stated that she had six children and 4 were alive in 1911. Peter Walsh of Rathinure recalls that his mother said that Ellen’s youngest daughter Nora was handicapped and became abusive toward her elderly mother. Nora was placed in a home.
Thomas Quinn (1843-1903) of Rathinure, Glenmore
Thomas Quinn (1843-1903) was baptized on 19 December 1843 at Mullinavat to Stephen Quinn and his wife Catherine Haberlin. Margaret Conway was baptized on 14 July 1843 at Carrigloney the daughter of Michael Conway and Mary Barry. Thomas Quinn (23), of Rathinure, (labourer) married Margaret Conway (22) of Carrigcloney on 28 October 1869. Per the 1901 Census Thomas and Margaret Quinn were renting their 1 room home in Rathinure, Glenmore from John Kennedy. We assume that this was Sean Óg Kennedy (c. 1885-1962).
Children of Thomas Quinn & Margaret Quinn née Conway of Rathinure, Glenmore
[1] Stephen Quinn (bapt 8 May 1871-15 May 1871) Died of convulsions in Carrigcloney
[2] Catherine Quinn (22 July 1872-19 Nov. 1913) emigrated to the US in 1900. She married James M. Howland on 25 July 1904 at Boston. James Howlan was born c. 1876 at Tarrytown, New York, the son of Nicholas Howland and Margaret Cummins. They had a son [2a] George Michael Howland (b. 9 Nov. 1905) just 4 months after her brother Michael was killed. The couple also had two daughters: [2b] Margaret M. Howland (1907-1992) and [2c] Catherine M. Howland (1909-1998). Catherine Howland née Quinn died in 1913 of diabetes. See our H surname page for her short obituary.
[3] Michael Quinn (1874-1905) died in the U.S. Marine Corp on board the U.S.S. Bennington.
[4] Patrick Quinn ( 28 Feb. 1876) emigrated to Boston.
[5] Mary Quinn (b. 15 Feb. 1878) married John Curran (laborer), of Carrigcloney on 28 September 1909 at Glenmore. John was the son of Richard Curran (carpenter). John and Mary had one son [5a] Richard Curran born 13 August 1910.
[6] Stephen Quinn (18 March 1880-5 Feb. 1929) in 1900 married Margaret Dalton of Knockbrack, Glenmore. Margaret was the daughter of Patrick Dalton. The couple had at least 5 children: [6a] Ellen Quinn (1901); [6b] Patrick Quinn (Rathinure); [6c] James Quinn (1908) Knockbrack; [6d] James Quinn (1910) Fahee; and [6e] Johanna Quinn (1913).
[7] James Quinn (bapt. 5 Feb. 1883—22 Aug.1967) emigrated to the U.S. On 28 August 1916 he married Helen Davis (1886-1949) in Detroit, Michigan. His WWI draft Registration (1918) provided that he was 32 years of age, working as a fireman for Detroit Edison, and living at 913 Ellery St., Detroit. He had blue eyes, dark brown hair medium height and medium build. His WWII draft registration showed that he was 56 years of age, born in Waterford and worked for the Detroit Edison Co. He and his wife had six known children. [7a] James Thomas Quinn (1917-1979); [7b] William George Quinn (1919-1998); [7c] Patrick J. Quinn (1922-1994); [7d] Margaret Helen Chaney née Quinn (1924-2022); [7e] Sr. Mary E. Quinn (1925-2008); and [7f] Kathleen C. Quinn (b. 1929).
[8] Thomas Quinn (b. 5 Feb. 1883)
[9] Honor (Nora Theresa) Long née Quinn (30 April 1885—12 Feb. 1957) emigrated 29 July 1903 to Boston via the ship Ivernia. Information gleaned from her Naturalisation Declaration (16 April 1914) provides that she claimed that she was 26 years of age, unmarried, with fair hair, 5’4” tall and weighed 180 pounds. She worked as a cook and lived at 23 Garden St., Cambridge Mass. She gave her birthdate as 1 May 1887. Nora married Alvin Wallace Long (1894-1989) on 1 November 1922, in Detroit Michigan. Nora died in 1957 in Royal Oak, Oakland, Michigan.
Death of Parents
Father, Thomas Quinn (1843-1903) died on 14 November 1903 at the Waterford Union hospital at the age of 60. His cause of death was heart disease and bronchial pneumonia.
Mother, Margaret Quinn (1843-1914) died the 5th of December 1914 at Carrickcloney, aged 71, a widow of a labourer. With no medical attention before her death. John Curran of Carrickcloney was present at her death. The 1911 Census reveals that Margaret was living with her daughter Mary Curran née Quinn and her husband John Curran in Carrickcloney. With Margaret Quinn’s death the pension ended.
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The featured photo of the U.S.S. Bennington was described as “dressed with flags in harbour, probably while serving with the Squadron of Evolution, c. 1891-1892. Courtesy of Donald M. McPherson, 1969. U.S. Naval History and Heritage Command Photograph. Catalog No.: NH 67551.”
The photo of Michael G. Quinn (1874-1905) was published in the Boston Herald (Sun. 23 July 1905, p. 4).
For more information on the U.S.S. Bennington see the webpage entitled U.S.S. Bennington.
Please send any corrections or additional information to glenmore.history@gmail.com
Dr. Kathleen Moore Walsh
From Danny’s Files: The Obituary of Richard “Dick” Dunphy (1878-1908)
Today, we feature a young Glenmore man whose untimely death resulted in a long, passionate, and detailed obituary in the Munster Express. This long obituary was found in Danny Dowling’s (1927-2021) large collection of obituaries of Glenmore people. The obituary is below in italics. The sub-headings were added and did not appear in the original published obituary.
Background
Richard Dunphy was born on the 26th of March 1878 in Ballyverneen, Glenmore. He was baptized the following day and his parents were James Dunphy (farmer) (1857-1887) and his wife Ellen Malone (1857-1941). James Dunphy of Ballyverneen married Ellen Malone, of Weatherstown, on 9 May 1877 at Glenmore. The groom was the son of Richard Dunphy (farmer) and the bride was the daughter of James Malone (farmer). Another child, John Dunphy (1880-1956) was born on 22 February 1880 to James Dunphy and his wife, Ellen Malone.
James Dunphy (1857-1887) died of pleurisy on 20 February 1887. He was a farmer, and his 10 year old son, Richard Dunphy, was listed in the death register as being present at his death. His, wife, Ellen Dunphy née Malone (1857-1941) died on 1 July 1941 of shock after suffering a burn. She was 85 years of age at the time of her death per the death register. Her son John Dunphy was present at her death. Richard “Dick” Dunphy (1878-1908) died on the first of April 1908 at his home in Ballyverneen, Glenmore, of acute atrophy of the liver. His brother, John Dunphy, was present at his death.
The Obituary
Richard Dunphy’s obituary appeared in the Munster Express (Fri. 18 April 1908, p. 2 ). It is extremely long and appears to have been written by a friend rather than the newspaper.
The Late Mr. Richard Dunphy, Glenmore: A Companion’s Appreciation
“Invidious grave! How dost thou rend in sunder
Whom love has knit and sympathy made one.”
A great gloom hangs heavily on Glenmore. A grand personality has ceased to exist and brighten the big glen. A young, noble, and cheerful heart has ceased to share our joys. The lights have been extinguished from the kindest, merriest eyes. The able scholar, the shapely athlete, the brilliant conversationalist, the big faithful heart, the soul of honour, the tongue of truth, lies among the quiet dead. Glenmore weeps–the glen he loved so well, the people he delighted so often. There is a mournful sadness over all things in his native parish, for our absent one loved the hills and the fields and the flowers. All mourn for him now, for there is none so beautiful to take his place.
It was necessary to spend but one hour in Mr. Dunphy’s company to discover his wonderful abilities and virtues. It was immaterial what topic was discussed–he was the master. The subject may be a subtle theological one; it may be a disputed fact in history; it may be on the drama, a social problem, or a political question; or perhaps on the fine point of a football contest–all were easily and efficiently diagnosed by “Dick.” One marvels at the great memory, the extensive reading, and the vast experience which generated such varied knowledge.
Enjoyed a Good Yarn
He had ever at hand a large supply of the most interesting antidotes, which he told with such with such expression and humour that the dullest loved to hear him. How often we “held our sides” when he passed witty remark or told what he liked to term a good “yarn.” Few possessed to such a degree the power power of creating around him an atmosphere of good cheer and happiness. His bright, happy, easy manner became reflected on all around him, and all were happy.
Unlike many other brilliant conversationalists, he was never offensive but always edifying. His views on all questions ever bespoke an honourable and virtuous soul; his “yarns” ever portrayed intelligent wit and modest simplicity. Seldom have intelligence, wit, virtue and simplicity been so happily blended in one man. He was just the personality we wanted, and his loss is an irreparable one to society.
Love of Glenmore
Our dear departed one loved the place of his birth in an uncommon degree. Nothing could give him greater delight then to spend a holiday roaming round the hills and dales of his native Glenmore. How we shall miss that bright cheering smile, that gay, lightsome, athletic form swinging along over the roads and through the fields.
As himself would say–he loved the simple life. Simplicity in every form attended him, simplicity in amusement (I saw him recently enjoying a game of marbles)–simplicity in manner, simplicity in all things. This is all the more remarkable when we remember his duties as an Excise Officer brought him in touch with many pretentious people and cities in the United Kingdom. He always came back to us the same happy-going, modest, merry soul.
Glenmore Football
His prowess in the football field is known in many an Irish county, but nowhere so well as his native parish. Where ever he happened to be stationed he sought the best Gaelic Club , and immediately became its guide, philosopher, and friend. When the Glenmore Football Club needed help he was home like a streak of lightening. He several times travelled home from England to help the Glenmore boys win the 1906 Championship. He was our guiding star and our idol. It was a sad moment when the captain placed a beautiful wreath on his grave.
Education
The late Mr. Dunphy sowed the first seeds of his learning and great virtue in Glenmore National School, where he was the delight of his teacher Mr. Curran.He next spent some years in Good Counsel College, New Ross. Here his exceptional abilities marked him for many favours. He graduated to Blackrock College, Dublin, where he had a distinguished course. Deciding to become a Civil Servant he next entered the Civil Service Institute, Dublin, where after a few months special tuition he secured fourth place in the dUnited Kingdom at the Excise examinations in 1899. He had recently been promoted to Second Class Officer of Excise in Kilkenny.
Last Illness
Not feeling well for some time past he returned home, and after a few weeks’ illness he died most happily. The last Sacraments were administered by the Rev. Father Crotty, C.C. whose zeal for his spiritual welfare, both before and after death, could not be greater. Deceased was interred on Friday, the 3rd of April and the funeral was of Immense proportions. Requiem Office and High Mass were celebrated for the repose of his soul.
Often in future years when discussing the incidents of our career, out thought will revert to that green spot in Glenmore Cemetery, beneath which lies the truest and noblest comrade we have ever known. To his sorrowing family we offer our deepest sympathy.
Success of a Glenmore Student
We located a 1900 article entitled “Success of a Glenmore Student,” that gives further details regarding Richard “Dick” Dunphy’s success with the Excise exam.
“At the examination held last November for situations in the Excise Department of the Inland Revenue, Richard Dunphy, of Glenmore, obtained 5th place in Ireland and 16th in the United Kingdom, with highest marks, 94 per cent in English Composition. Originally, he was a pupil of Mr. Curran, whose sons gained success lately, he was for some years a student of the College of Good Counsel, New Ross, which he went to University College Blackrock, familiarly known as the “Castle,” to whose fine training his success is so largely due. His final preparation was made at the Civil Service Institute, Rutland Square, Dublin, to the staff of which he is indebted for their careful attention and great knowledge of examinations. 940 candidates competed for 80 vacancies in the examination in which he was successful” (New Ross Standard, Sat, 23 June 1900, p. 4).
We found a head stone in St. James’s Cemetery in Glenmore Village that had inscriptions for Ellen Dunphy née Malone and her youngest son, John Dunphy. We could not locate an inscription for Richard “Dick” Dunphy (1878-1908).
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For information on the 1906 Glenmore Champion Football Team see our post of 30 August 2020. For a brief history of Blackrock College see the Blackrock College webpage.
Please send any additional information, corrections or photos etc. to glenmore.history@gmail.com . The featured photo above is Ballyverneen, Glenmore looking out onto the Barrow River.
Dr. Kathleen Moore Walsh
From Danny Files: Glenmore Landlord John Lambly Conn (1812-1893)
While reading articles that Danny Dowling (1927-2021) copied into his files I came across an interesting article. Less than a year after the Glenmore Land League formed in 1880 an agent for a notorious Glenmore landlord was abused on a train journey to and from Kilkenny City. In researching the events leading up to this event there were several cases where this landlord sued his tenants and the tenants sued this landlord. The Glenmore landlord was John Lambly Conn (1812-1893) of Mount Ida, Rochestown, Glenmore. His agent was George Gibson (c.1817 -1897).
Thanks to Martin Forristal we know quite a bit about the bigamist Conn of Mount Ida, Rochestown, Glenmore. Today, we are going to focus on the cases Conn brought against his tenants as well as some cases the tenants brought against Conn.
For information on Conn see Martin Forristal’s 2019 article “Mount Ida.” For information on the Glenmore Land League and the thwarted Ballyfacey Evictions see our post of 8 March 2020.
Thomastown Quarter Sessions
The Waterford News & Star (Fri. 8 July 1881, p. 4) reported on several cases involving John Lambly Conn, of Mount Ida. Conn was suing one tenant and being sued by four of his tenants.
Murtagh Kearney
Murtagh Kearney was sued for £14 12s. 6d. alleged to be owed for one years’ rent on part of the lands of Carrignurra, Slieverue.
Thomas Walsh, Thomas Roche, Thomas Denn, & Simon Denn
The other four tenants were suing Conn in the following amounts: Thomas Walsh, £5 12s. 8d; Thomas Roche, £4 19s; Thomas Denn, £5 6s. 10d.; and Simon Denn, £5 18s. 9d. The four tenants were suing for money they paid during the preceding six years, being the landlord’s proportion of the poor rates in respect of part of the lands of Carriganurra.
George Gibson, Conn’s agent, argued that there was an agreement between Conn and his tenants by which the tenants were to pay all the poor rates. This was based on the fact that under a previous landlord the tenants were to pay all the poor rates and Conn simply continued the practice.
The Justice noted that it was a “miserable thing to see those petty disputes between landlord and tenant, and advised that these cases should be settled, suggesting that both should withdraw their processes.” Ultimately it was agreed that Conn would allow half the poor rates, and no costs to either side. It seemed out of character for Conn to agree to the judge’s proposal, however within a couple of months at least two of the tenants’ farms were sold in a Sheriff’s sale in Kilkenny City.
Martin Cody v. John L. Conn
Martin Cody, of Kilcolum, claimed £528 3s. 4d, for permanent improvements and buildings under sections 3 and 4 of the Land Act. Thomas F. Strange, solicitor, appeared for the plaintiff Cody.
Section 4 of the Land Act entitled a tenant holding under a lease for lives or 31 years to make a claim for reclamation of lands on being disturbed. The lease was dated 18 April 1812, and covered 59 acres, 3 roods, (Irish measure) of lands of Rochestown. The lease was for the lives of three persons—Thomas Walsh, Judith Walsh, and Thomas Walsh, Jr. at a yearly rent of £65 3s. About 1840, Thomas Walsh Jr. divided the lands between his two sons, Thomas and James. Thomas received 45 acres and James 24 acres at an annual rental of £24, or £1 per acres. Shortly after the division the father, Thomas Walsh died.
In October 1878 James Walsh erected slated buildings. Previous buildings were thatched. At said time Hannah Walsh the daughter of Thomas Walsh married Martin Cody. James Walsh assigned his lands to Thomas Walsh. James Walsh died in October 1879 and Thomas Walsh survived until May 1880.
Conn claimed that per the lease he was entitled to take up the lands now in the possession of the plaintiff Martin Cody. Conn served a notice of ejectment and plaintiff sued for disturbance.
After Martin Cody testified that he had gone onto the land as a son-in-law and had been in possession for 3 years Conn told the court that he was willing to do whatever was fair and reasonable to effect a settlement. The Court replied, “I think it would be desirable that the parties should come to some settlement.” Cody stated he did not wish to leave the land and had written several letters to George Gibson, but had no reply. The judge then said that he would grant the tenant a lease for 31 years dating from 1 May 1881. The lease would contain two clauses—one was against alienation and sub-letting, the other gave the tenant the power to sale his interest to one person only.
The Judge then praised Mrs. Cody for the clean, orderly manner, in which she kept her house, he admired the cleanliness of her dairy and everything he saw reflected the “greatest credit on the young couple…”
Sheriff’s Sale
Two months later a letter was sent to the editor of the Munster Express (Sat. 10 Sept. 1881, p. 4) where the author disputed a statement George Gibson, as agent made that “no tenants were compelled to leave for nonpayment of rent.” The author queried where are the Haberlins and Murphys? “’Tis a fact that these poor tenants were forced to leave because they would not consent to pay the unjust and exorbitant rent imposed upon them through the agency of George Gibson.” It was asserted that they never went into arrears but were forced to leave because the new rent they could not pay.
At this time a Sheriff’s Sale was held in Kilkenny. The principal sale involved the sale of 11 tenant’s farms situated in the Granagh and Kilmacow areas. The landlord was Thomas Redington Roche, of Athenry and Gerald O’Connor was his agent. On the day of the sale Kilmacow residents led by their curate Rev. P. Doyle and the Rev. M. Cody, C.C. of Slieverue boarded the train for Kilkenny City. Fr. Cody was a native of Carrigcloney, Glenmore and had been the previous year arrested for his Land League activities.
Train to Kilkenny City
“Scarcely had the train reached the platform when the news spread that Geoge Gibson…who happens to be agent to Mr. J.L. Conn, of Mount Ida—a gentleman not at present on the most amicable terms with his tenantry” was on the train. At every station along the route, most discordant sounds were blown, from the very bass instruments of the bands into the compartment where Gibson sat. Salutations were made to Gibson in the “native vocabulary” that were not comforting, re-assuring or grateful.
On arrival at the Kilkenny platform, Gibson was roughly handled. He was jostled about. The cabs and carmen were threatened with boycotting if they carried him anywhere. Gibson with the “meekness and humility for which he is remarkable, sallied forth, bag in hand…” to a hotel for breakfast. In 1881 Gibson was about 64 years of age.
The Kilmacow band paraded the streets playing national airs. They bore several “handsome banners with national and Land League mottoes.” Around noon the band noticed that the agents for the sales were gathering. The band members marked their disapproval by using the large drum and other instruments to produce a disagreeable noise. The crowd followed, the band shouting and hooting. The agents were evidently terrified of the wrath of the band and crowd.
Conn Properties Sold
Two of Conn’s properties were mentioned in the newspaper account. Andrew Den’s farm was offered for sale. Rev. P. Cody objected to the tenant not being allowed half the poor rates this year as in other years, and because it was an unsettled point he protested the sale. Notwithstanding his protest the sales proceeded. Andrew Den purchased his farm for £34 11s. and Simon Den purchased his farm for £35 17s.
Shortly thereafter the sales were abandoned when the priests began filing written objections to the remaining sales. George Gibson then made a reference to Rev. P. Doyle. Fr. Doyle responded, that “Any observations you have to make let the whole court hear it. You have treated the tenants in the most barbarous manner.
Train to Waterford
On the train journey back to Waterford, Gibson was the object of great hostility. No other passenger would enter the carriage where he was seated. At every station along the route he was serenaded through the windows with the most discordant sounds. It “must have sounded like the war-whoop of a band of Sioux Indians.”
Upon arriving at Waterford, George Gibson was subjected to severe jostling and bugle blasts. All car and omnibus drivers were told not to convey him to the City. Eventually with police protection he was taken to a room in the station. He stayed there until the crowds dispersed between eight and nine p.m.. He was then escorted by the RIC to his apartments in the Chamber of Commerce.
In our next post we shall highlight how many hats (jobs) George Gibson had, his famous brother-in-law as well as his suffragette niece.
Please send any corrections or further information to glenmore.history@gmail.com .
Dr. Kathleen Moore Walsh
Glenmore Fishing and Weirs
For generations Glenmore men, and at least one woman, fished the River Barrow. Some of fishermen were also farmers and others were cottagers working on farms when needed part of the year and fishing the remainder of the year. Although the River Barrow is home to several different types of fish and eel, the king of the catch was the salmon. (For a list of the type of fish of the Barrow see, http://riverbarrow.net/fishing.html .) Danny Dowling interviewed and recorded various aspects of local fishing in the 1970’s as fishing declined significantly.
Nicky Forristal, of the Mill, Graiguenakill, Glenmore in June 1977 identified five fishing “pools” on the River Barrow that Glenmore fishermen fished. All of the fishing pools identified had Irish names and were described as follows:
- Thowshkeen—above Cherry’s Brewery at Ross, mid-river.
- Ling Voor—off Castle Annaghs. From Stafford’s wharf to turn of Camblin.
- Lahóge—Between Maid’s Quay and Glenmore Pill.
- Málya—Between Glenmore Pill and Carrickcloney strand.
- Corrigalú—On Wexford side almost opposite Tommy Connolly’s, of the river, at Aylwardstown. Below Dunganstown Quay wood of the same name.
Patrick Hennessey, of Hoodsgrove, Rosbercon, in February 1980 identified seven fishing “ponds,” on the Barrow and Nore Rivers. All of the fishing ponds identified by Patrick Hennessy are also in Irish.
- Ling Voor—in Barrow off Camblin.
- Ling Beg—in Barrow at bridge of Ross.
- Thowshtheen—in Barrow at Ross side of railway bridge.
- Vawnúg—at Barrow mouth. Confluence of Nore and Barrow.
- Pawl Útha—in Nore under Luke Hennessy’s of Glensensaw.
- Portloss—in Nore at Ballyneale.
- Scíordhawns—in Nore under Lambert’s of Newgrove.
Michael Forristal, of Rochestown, Glenmore in 1969 stated that there were 14 fishing boats at the Black Rock, Kearneybay and at one time 40 boats were fishing the river. John Power, of Carrigcloney, Glenmore, in February 1970 identified the fishermen with boats who trawled the Malya around the turn of the twentieth century.
- Tommy Power of Robinstown (own boat).
- Jim Scanlan, Glenmore (own boat.)
- Jimmy Forristel, The Mill (own boat).
- Pat Kennedy, Duganstown, Co. Wexford (own boat).
- Patsy Hough, Rochestown (own boat).
- Jack Forristal, Rochestown (own boat).
- Micky Foran, Rochestown (own boat).
Salmon was then about 6 d. per lb. Salmon was so plentiful that asses and carts were required to transport it away. The fish were generally sold in Ross. A man named Murphy was identified as a New Ross fish buyer.
However, some boats were owned by people who did not live along the river. Nicky Forristal, of the Mill, Graiguenakill (Nov. 1977) told Danny that Patsy Henneberry (Mártín) of Jamestown, and Bill Roche, of Jamestown, (Main Roche’s father) owned between them a cot which they fished in for at least one season. Patsy Henneberry was going with another crew on this particular season, and he asked Roche, “how will we settle about the cot?” Roche replied “we can do nothing with her except cut her in halves.” No matter what Henneberry suggested, Roche would not agree, so in the end Henneberry, rather than see it cut in halves, left it to Roche.
Nicky Forristal (1888-1979) in his 1977 interview also described to Danny the fish joulter’s cars that he observed as a young man. This horse drawn vehicle with four wheels, had high sides and was used by the fish dealers in Ross, Enniscorthy and Graiguenamanagh. They traveled in convoys of up to 8 or 9 cars by the Mill on their way to Dunmore to collect sea fish. They would leave in the day, pass by the Mill in the evening, stay overnight in Dunmore, and return the next day. He was told that they travelled in a convoy to let some of the drivers sleep for part of the journey and the cars and the fish would be minded by the other drivers.
Brian Forristal in an interview of Tommy Connolly, of the river, (1907-1987) recorded that Tommy recalled a time when 30 or 40 boats were on the river during the salmon season. Tommy and his crew, in the 1961-1962 season, held the record for the number of salmon caught in one sweep. They were fishing in the “Mallagh” and caught 65 salmon during the one run and on the next they caught another 20 or so. The haul was so heavy it took several crews to help them pull in the net.
Weirs on the Barrow River
An interesting article appeared in the Dublin Penny Journal (30 Jan. 1836, available at https://www.jstor)org/stable/30003343) concerning the fishing of “the famed salmon of the Barrow.” The author a man from New Ross described the salmon fishing as follows: “a net is dropped between two small boats called ‘cots.’ (The author described the cot as a small boat generally built of four or five boards.) Each cot holds two men, one holds the net, while the other ‘conducts the cot with a paddle, shaped like a shovel.’” It was noted by the author that upwards of four hundred individuals earn a comfortable livelihood during the fishing seasons. This livelihood came under threat in 1834 when large Scotch weirs, some nearly a mile in extent, were illegally placed at the mouth of the Waterford harbour. One of these weirs frequently caught five hundred salmon each tide. “Impelled by hunger and despair” the up-river fishermen could not wait for the legal prosecution of the weir owners. Men manned two hundred cots and armed with hatchets and saws they left New Ross one morning cut down the nets of the giant Scotch weirs and returned with the returning tide, exhausted having travelled nearly 50 miles. “The lovers of cheap salmon welcomed their return with three hearty cheers, and made a handsome collection to buy bread and beer to refresh these nautical heroes.”
Although the newspapers of the nineteenth century are full of fishing prosecutions and inquiries there is one article in the Dublin Daily Express of 15 December 1863 that identifies and discusses three weirs in Glenmore parish and the people associated with them sometimes going back to 1800, namely: the Ballyverneen weir; the Carney (sic) Bay weir; and the Rochestown weir. Under an Act of Parliament, the Fisheries Commission was appointed to investigate the rights and titles of parties to fisheries by means of fixed weirs and to decide whether they were an obstruction to navigation.
Ballyverneen Weir
Dr. Joseph P. Mackesy, Esq. was identified as the landlord and Michael Irish was the occupier of the weir who paid rent for it. Robert Brazil measured the weir and advised the Commission that it was 59 yards from the end of the enter ring to the shore. At the outside pole it was in 30 feet of water, and at the upper end of the channel wing there was 24 feet of water at full tide. Pilot William Fortune testified and referred to it as the Pink Rock weir. He stated that the tide sets right into it and said that it was an obstruction to navigation of a vessel when “working up a vessel, coming up with a flood tide.” Daniel Walsh testified that his brother fished the weir in 1801 and he took it after that. Daniel testified that he was about 72 years of age. The nets were cut down by the cot men once since he took the weir. It never happened again. He never knew a gabbard or ship to be tangled in the Ballyverneen weir. Thomas Mullally, Dr. Mackessy’s rent-warner, testified that he had no recollection of being told of any damage being done to the weir by boats. “There is a good flood tide going into the weir.”
The Commission deemed the weir injurious to navigation and the public right of fishing. It ordered the removal of the weir.
Kearneybay Weir
The landlord was Col. Kearney and the occupant was Thomas Murphy. [Update: Danny Dowling stated on 20 July 2020 that Col. Kearney lived near the Carlow border and only resided in Kearneybay for a short time.] The weir was described as a “head weir.” Robin Brazil testified that from the shore to the extreme end of the channel wing of the weir measured 72 yards. At spring high water he found the depth of 27 feet at the end of the channel wing. Gabbards, boats and vessels pass up and down the river by this weir. Michael Barron a boatman testified that in his opinion the weir made navigating the river difficult. James Bolger a boatman trading up and down the river testified that he did not think it was injurious. Thomas Wall, a Kearneybay farmer, testified that the weir had been there as long as he could remember for the past 65 or 66 years. It was fished as a salmon weir during that time and before that it was fished by Andrew Neil and Mark Brine.
Thomas Murphy testified that he was the tenant of the weir for the past 12 years since his father died. He paid £5 rent per year to Col. Kearney the landlord. He had helped fish it for the past 40 years. He stated that to his knowledge Col. Kearney and his ancestors owned the weir for over 200 years. Thomas Murphy stated his father fished it for 45 years as a salmon weir. He never heard of a complaint that it was an obstruction to navigation. Murphy noted that at high water the breadth of the river was about 300 yards. About 30 or 40 yards of the weir were stripped out at low spring tides. It was a flood weir. There were no complaints made to him about a boat going into the weir, but he admitted it was injured by a vessel going against it about 15 years earlier.
The Commission ruled that no evidence was given to sustain the title and that there was evidence that it was injurious to navigation. It ordered the weir be removed.
The Rochestown Weir
The owner of the weir was identified as Peter Strange, J.P. The occupier was Joseph Hunt. The weir was described as a flood weir. Hunt testified that he held the weir under a lease of 21 years for which he paid 1 shilling per year. His father purchased the lease for 21 years for £80, 12 years earlier leaving 9 years still on the lease. Hunt stated that the weir does not pose an obstruction to navigation. John Crook testified that he had worked the weir for the past 60 years and it was always used for salmon. Myles Dempsey, a boatman for twenty years, testified that he did not think that the weir caused an obstruction to navigation. The newspaper report does not provide further detail and the Commission ultimately decided that the weir should be abated, and it if was not removed after the proper lapse of time (assumed to be the remainder of the lease) it would issue a warrant for its removal.
The featured drawing is from the Dublin Penny Journal (30 Jan. 1836, available at https://www.jstor)org/stable/30003343) and depicts Castle Annaghs which was located on the Barrow River in Kilkenmy between Glenmore and New Ross. In the foreground is a cot and two fishermen.
For further information concerning local fishing, Andrew Doherty’s blog Waterford Harbour Tides & Tales see, for example “Growing Up Amongst Nets,” https://tidesandtales.ie/growing-up-amongst-nets/ .
Dr. Kathleen Moore Walsh
Wed & Dead Within a Week: The Widow’s Update
On the 21st of June we posted an article concerning the tragic circumstances surrounding the wedding and death of James Aylward, of Parkstown, Glenmore in 1909. Although the bride widow, Catherine (Kate) Aylward née Gaul was located in the 1911 census living with her father and brothers in Ballynooney West, of Rosbercon no further records could be located.
We are happy to report that through the help of a reader we were able to speak with a great-niece of the lady and learned that the woman widowed while on her honeymoon re-married, had four children and lived in Castlecomer, Co. Kilkenny.
We were not able to locate a marriage record for the widow Catherine (Kate) Aylward née Gaul but we were able to find a child born in Moyhora, Castlecomer on the 31st of July 1916 to Michael Murphy and Kate Murphy née Gaul. The child was named Kate Murphy. Unfortunately the public birth records end in 1919 and we were unable to discover the names of the other three children.
In terms of the Gaul family it was verified that the father, Luke Gaul, died on 7 February 1917 at the age of 70 and Kate had two brothers. John born on 19 April 1873 married and stayed on the Ballynooney farm. William Gaule was born on 23 September 1879; he married Honara Dalton and farmed in Keatingstown, Hugginstown, Co. Kilkenny. They had eight children. It was said that Honara lived to be 101 years of age.
Lastly, Cissy Kennedy, a native of Rathinure, Glenmore, aged 90 verified last week that John Joe Aylward of Parkstown, Glenmore (nephew of the tragic groom) had a sister Nellie Aylward who married a farmer from Wexford and had two sons.
Below is the headstone bearing the name of the tragic groom located during the recent survey of the Glenmore cemetery.
Dr. Kathleen Moore Walsh
