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BALLINLAMMY, GLENMORE (1961) [updated]
Today, we are going to feature information that Danny Dowling (1927-2021) recorded regarding the residents of the townland of Ballinlammy, Glenmore around 1961.
Background
The Irish for this townland, according to O’Kelly’s, The Place Names of the County of Ireland (1969, p. 112) is Baile na léime, which translates as place of the jump. The townland is comprised of 612 acres and is found in the Civil Parish of Kilcolumb. The Irish Scholar John O’Donovan (1806-1861) provided this translation but made no reference to the jumping feat in his works. “The more ancient name was Baile Dhaith, David’s homestead, and the upper portion is called Baile Dhaith Mhoir, big David’s homestead. This is a very long narrow stretch of upland running north and south for almost 3 miles.” For further information on Slieverue born John O’Donovan see our post of 13 March 2021.
Tithe Applotment Books 1829
In the 1829 Tithe Applotment Books the townland of Ballinlammy’s landlord was David O’Neill Power Esq. (c. 1783-1863) of Snow Hill House, Slieverue. About the time of Griffith’s Valuation David O’Neill Power was adjudicated “a lunatic.” There were 11 tenancies listed in the Applotment Records for Ballinlammy, listed below with the associated statute acres. [1] Thomas Rochford, 82 acres; [2] Capt. Power (fox cover) 1 acre; [3] James Fitzgerald, 1 acre; [4] Edmond Costold & Richard Ryan, 102 acres; [5] John Walsh, 15 acres; [6] Martin Doherty & Patt Kennedy, 64 acres; [7] Robert Malone, 85 acres; [8] Martin Murphy, 3 acres; [9] Nicholas Murphy, 79 acres; [10] John & James Doherty, 61 acres; and [11] Michael & James Walsh, 33 acres.
Ballinlammy, Glenmore 1961
Danny Dowling’s mother was born and reared in Ballinlammy. In 1961, Danny recorded 11 families or households in Ballinlammy. Birthdates or birth years are provided for some of the older residents gleaned from available public records. For some time after drafting his notebook, Danny recorded the dates of death or simply recorded that a resident had died or left the townland. The recorded information reveals that in 1961, 53 people resided in Ballinlammy with the population comprised of 27 males and 24 females. The largest family was the Irish family with 11 in the household. There was no household recorded with a person living alone. All information under residents of Ballinlammy not in Danny’s original list has been placed in brackets[ ].
Recorded Residents of Ballinlammy, Glenmore 1961
Males= 28
Females=25
Eldest Recorded Resident= The eldest resident recorded in the townland was John Irish (1888-1963) who was 73 in 1961. John was the son of James Irish and his wife, Johanna Henneberry, of Ballinlammy. John was married to Brigid Irish née Murphy (1895—1987). The couple are believed to have had 19 children. Brigid was the daughter of Edward Murphy and his wife, Bridget Wall, of Davidstown, Glenmore. Brigid’s obituary may be found on our family I surname page.
Recorded Work
Farmer= 8 (7 Males; 1 Female)
Farm Worker= 8 (8 Males)
Carpenter =1 (1 Male)
Foundry Worker= 1 (1 Male)
Metal Worker=1 (1 Male)
Domestic= 3 (3 Females)
Shopkeeper=1 (1 Male)
Nurse=1 (1 Female)
Ballinlammy, Glenmore Residents 1961
[1] IRISH
Irish, John (10 Sept. 1888) Farmer (died 6 Feb. 1963)
Irish, Brigid (6 Feb. 1884 1895) wife [The correct year is 1895]
Irish, James, son, farm worker
Irish, Margaret, daughter-in-law
Irish, John G., grandson
Irish, Seamus, grandson
Irish, Breda, granddaughter
Irish, Catriona, granddaughter
Irish, Carmel, granddaughter
Irish, Robert, son, farm worker
Irish, Ryan, farm worker
[2] DOHERTY
Doherty, William (6 May 1892) Farmer
Doherty, Bridget (13 Feb. 1896) wife
Doherty, Michael, son, farm worker
Moore, Joseph, boarder (gone to Aylwardstown) [According to Danny Dowling’s notes Joe Moore came from Wexford and trapped rabbits].
[3] DOHERTY
Doherty, Patrick, Farmer
Doherty, Robert, brother, farm worker
Doherty, Mary, sister

[Doherty, Katie, sister, RGN in the County and City Infirmary, Waterford]
[Doherty, Patrick (c. 1887-1951) father]
[Doherty, Anastatia née Cody (c. 1894-1959) mother]
[4] WALSH
Walsh, Joseph, Carpenter
Walsh, Margaret, wife
Walsh, Gerard, son
Walsh, Bernadette, daughter
Walsh, Brendan, son
Doran, Julia, sister-in-law
[5] MORAN
Moran, Thomas (b. 1920) Farmer
Moran, Parker? (b. 1921) brother, foundry worker
[6] MURPHY
Murphy, Martin (3 June 1906) Farmer [Danny Dowling’s uncle]
Murphy, Elizabeth (3 June 1916) wife
Murphy, Michael, son
Murphy, Mary, daughter
Murphy, John Joe, son
Murphy, Patrick, son
[7] MURPHY
Murphy, Edmond, Farmer [known as Murphy’s of the Mountain]
Murphy, Brigid, mother
Murphy, Margaret, sister, domestic
Murphy, Mary Anne, sister
Murphy, Statia, sister, domestic
Murphy, Martin, brother, farm worker
Murphy, Bridget, sister, domestic
[8] MARTIN
Martin, Nicholas, Farm Labourer
Martin, Ellen, wife
Martin, Bridget, daughter
Martin, Mary, daughter
Martin, Henry, son
[9] MORAN
Moran, Robert (b. 1922) Metal Worker
Moran, Bridget (b. 1914) wife
Moran, Hubert, son
[10] WALSH
Walsh, Ellen, Farmer
Walsh, Thomas, son, farm worker
Walsh, Ellen, daughter
Walsh, Margaret, daughter
[11] HENNEBERRY
Henneberry, Nicholas (23 June 1912) Shopkeeper [Danny said the shop was in Waterford]
Henneberry, Joan, wife
[Update 23 Dec. 2022–one helpful reader remarked that the last two families [10] Walsh & [11] Henneberry were actually in Davidstown rather than Ballinlammy. The 1911 Census (the last publically released census) does provide that the Henneberry family resided in Davidstown. Over the years the townland divisions changed as well as the parish lines. Per Danny’s notes he sought to record residents similar to how he believed the Garda Siochana recorded residents as census collectors in 1961.]
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In the near future we hope to publish an article regarding landlord Davd O’Neill Power (c. 1783-1863) as well as a short article on Joe Moore and his time in Glenmore as recorded by Danny.
The featured photo above is of a movie poster of Butterfield 8 starring Elizabeth Taylor. For her role in this movie Elizabeth Taylor won her first Oscer in 1961 (Best Actress). Special thanks to Paraic Dowling who shared the photo of his grandmother Katie Murphy née Doherty on her first day of work at the Co. & City Infirmary, Waterford in Dec. 1949.
Please send any corrections or additional information to glenmore.history@gmail.com.
Dr. Kathleen Moore Walsh
Lighting the Glenmore Village Christmas Tree 2022
On Saturday, the 10th of December 2022, at 5:30 p.m. in the cold Glenmore residents, young and not so young, bundled up to witness the annual lighting of the Village Christmas tree. For those who are far away, or who were unable to attend, we recorded the event. Due to copyrite we were unable to use the music that was played at the event, but found a couple of substitutes. Santa made an appearance behind a vintage tractor and rocked. We hope you enjoy the short video. To view it please click on https://youtu.be/VUuD9QXBhxo.
Next Sunday afternoon, the 18th of December 2022, Glenmore History will have a small exhibit of historical items at the parish Christmas Bazaar. We are also going to have some old fashion leisure items for sale such as a variety of books from Danny Dowling’s vast book collection and jigsaw puzzles for anyone looking for some last minute, unique gifts or entertainment for the long winter nights.
Leinster Senior Football Final, Nov. 1922: Kilkenny vs. Dublin
From 1920 to 1930 nine Kilkenny Senior Football Championships were held, and Glenmore played in all nine of the Finals. There was no county championship in 1921. Glenmore won in 1920; 1922; 1923; 1924; and 1929. Today we are going to feature the Leinster Senior Football final played at Croke Park on the 5th of November 1922 between Kilkenny and Dublin. Nine of the fifteen Kilkenny players were from the Glenmore Senior Football team. The referee was Mr. J. Byrne of Wexford. Previously we published on 24 April 2022 the names of the Glenmore players and an account of the game found in the Kilkenny People. Today, we are covering the accounts in the Irish Independent and Munster Express. Although the country was suffering a civil war with daily attacks on railways and motor cars no mention of the difficulties associated with players attempting to travel to practice or to matches appeared in the newspaper coverage outside Kilkenny. However, it was noted that “the crowd was very small and threatening rain made matters disagreeable for everyone. The proceedings were enlivened by the music of the Artane School Band and the O’Toole’s Pipers” (Munster Express, Sat. 11 Nov. 1922, p. 4). This game was still being mentioned in local newspapers five decades after it was played (Kilkenny People, Fri. 22 Oct. 1976, p. 10).
Leinster Senior Football Final
Most of the account below was sourced from the Munster Express (Sat. 11 Nov. 1922, p. 4). First names and teams were added to the Kilkenny players mentioned in the newspaper account. Additional information was obtained from the Irish Independent ((Mon. 6 Nov. 1922, p. 9) including the figures of the match.
The First Half
From the throw in Dublin broke away but their movement was checked. Frank Hughes (Cloneen) sent wide from a free. Bill Irish (Glenmore) held up the Dublin offensive, and Kilkenny went on the attack and were rewarded with a free which was missed by Jimmy Hanrahan (Glenmore). Dublin dashed off on the kickout, and P. McDonnell (sec) sent the ball outside. The Kilkenny backs cleared a Dublin return and were given two frees. One free was at midfield and the second on the right wing awarded to Paddy Cody (Glenmore). Mick Connolly (Glenmore) took the free and sent it over the bar for a point. “With five minutes gone play of a high order was the rule, and Kilkenny, doing very well against the champions, caused their supporters to grow jubilant.”
“Good play by Carey, P. McDonnell and Johnny Synott ended in Dalton bringing off a splendid save in the Kilkenny goal. Dublin kept up the offensive, and P. McDonnell semt in a minor. Kilkenny responded with a determined rush, and the Dublin side had a close shave, J. McDonnell saving and clearing a low shot from Connolly (Glenmore). Kilkenny worked back and had a free which, well judged by J. McKenna (Cotterstown), ended in Mick Connolly (Glenmore) forcing a “50”. J. McKenna’s (Cotterstown) kick was neatly placed, but the Dublin end was crossed without result. Soon the Kilkenny backs were relieving in dashing style, and Frank Hughs (Cloneen) led the Marble County attacking. Martin Cody (Glenmore) centred for Jim Phelan (Glenmore) to shoot. Bill Irish (Glenmore) returned, and the Dublin end was again crossed. Dublin went to work in a determined fashion, but they had no impression on the Kilkenny backs. From a free P. McDonnell drove wide.
Kilkenny engaged in a vigorous offensive and Mick Connolly (Glenmore), receiving from Frank Hughes (Cloneen), scored a point. The pace was remarkable fast, and both sides were giving a “grand exhibition.” Kilkenny again got the upper hand and J. McKenna (Cotterstown) took a free from which John Fitzgerald (Glenmore) met with hard luck in a splendid attempt. Bill Irish (Glenmore) was responsible for holding up a Dublin effort, but the Metropolitans were not to be denied. A stiff Dublin attack found the Kilkenny custodian, Pat Dalton (Cloneen), all alone. Dublin fought their way back from a free, but the honours were with the Kilkenny line of defence after a thrilling struggle. Norris and Reilly were prominent in a Dublin return, but the Kilkenny backs were not to be beaten, and an over resulted. Kilkenny were lasting the hot pace well. They again broke away, and a well placed centre by Jimmy Hanrahan (Glenmore) was mis-judge by Paddy Cody (Glenmore). At the other end P. McDonnell sent wide. A return by Dublin found the Kilkenny backs at their best. Eventually, P. McDonnell got in a great shot which Pat Dalton (Knocktopher) saved amidst cheers. Very good play marked the closing stages of the first half, the interval finding Kilkenny leading by 2 points to 1 point.
Second Half
With a breeze in their favour Dublin got away on the play resuming. P. McDonnel (sic) sent it wide. A return was beaten off, and Kilkenny pressed. Jimmy Hanrahan (Glenmore) sent it in for the Dublin backs to clear in capital style. Dublin were now having the better of the play. A free aided Dublin in a forward movement, which ended in P. McDonnell receiving from O’Reilly and kicking a fine overhead point. With the scores level there was keen enthusiasm, both sides battling hard for the lead. A great Dublin on rush was checked by the Kilkenny backs, who were gamely bearing the brunt of the struggle. The Dublin forwards were not doing too well, and a succession of wides were registered before Dalton once more proved to be the men in the gap, by brining off a magnificent save. When Kilkenny looked like it was getting away a foul spoiled the play. The ensuring Dublin attack, which was prolonged, met with a splendid resistance.

Dublin got three over before P. McDonald sent in a point which gave them the lead. Dublin renewed the offensive, and a minor followed for Donovan, who was always conspicuous. Nothing daunted, Kilkenny got away, and engaged in a brief attack, which was repulsed, Dublin again invading to go over. Despite the great efforts of the Kilkenny backs, Donovan and P. McDonnell were responsible for two further points. Kilkenny broke through, and looked like scoring until J. McKenna (Cotterstown) sent over. A free well placed by Jimmy Hanrahan (Glenmore) was sent wide of the Dublin posts by John Fitzgerald (Glenmore). Dublin again showed supremacy, and after twice crossing the Kilkenny end of the field Shanahan placed for P. McDonald who from a low ground shot, sent in an “unsavable goal.” In a Dublin return John Synott drove wide. Dublin continued to have the best of matters, and Robbins from far out kicked a point which left Dublin winning well at the end. The final score was Dublin 1-7; Kilkenny 0-2.
Often it gives a more balanced account to read what a newspaper in the opposing team’s area reported on a match, however it appears that the Munster Express was just a shorter version of the earlier article in The Irish Independent (Mon. 6 Nov. 1922, p. 9). The Irish Independent noted that for the first half hour “it was a really good game, the splendid stand made by the visitors coming as something of a surprise.” The pace was fast and Kilkenny engaged in strong, dashing tactics which resulted n their leading at half time. While their backs show up splendidly all through there were times when their forwards could have done better with the chances that came their way. Pat Dalton, of Knocktopher, acquitted himself with credit and played with the Kilkenny team which beat Meath in the Leinster final 7 years previously.
Dublin played an evenly balanced game and “though well tried in the opening half showed marked superiority in the closing stages.” The closing half was altogether in favour of the home team, but still the play continued interesting to the end “the Kilkenny men were always fighting pluckily. Kilkenny were minus the services of two of their original selection: one of the Brennans and Wattie Lawler, of Cloneen who was traveling by motor car failed to reach the city.
FIGURES OF THE MATCH
First Half Frees 50’s Wides Goals Points
Kilkenny 3 1 2 0 2
Dublin 4 0 3 0 1
Second Half
Kilkenny 3 0 2 0 0
Dublin 7 0 14 1 6
Dublin Team—P. Carey (Capt); J. McDonnell (goal); W. Robbins; J. Carey; Joe Synott; John Synott; J. Norris; J. Reilly (O’Toole’s); F. Burke; T. Pierce (Collegians); Joe Joyce (Parnells); W. Donovan (Kickhams); M. Shanahan; C. McDonnell (St. Mary’s) and sub A. Gibbons (O’Toole’s) who replaced Joe Synott who was injured in the first half.
Kilkenny Team—M. Cody (Capt); A. Heffernan; P. Hartley; J. Phelan; W. Irish; P. Cody; J. Hanrahan; M. Connolly; J. Fitzgerald (Glenmore); P. Dalton (goal) (Knocktopher), A. Brennan; P. Hughes; T. Brennan (Cloneen); J. McKenna; W. Landy (Cotterstown).
Kilkenny Team (from Kilkenny People, Fri. 22 Oct. 1976, p. 10) Martin Cody (Captain), Andy Heffernan, Pat Hartley, Jim Phelan, Bill Irish, John Fitzgerald, Mick Connolly, Paddy Cody, Jimmy Hanrahan (Glenmore); Pat Dalton, goal (Knocktopher), Tom Brennan, Frank Hughes, Andy Brennan (Cloneen), J. McKenna and Wattie Landy (Cotterstown).
A week later, the Kilkenny Senior Football team members were to play each other on Sunday the 12th of November 1922, when old rivals Glenmore and Cloneen were scheduled to play at St. James Park, Kilkenny for the Kilkenny senior Football County Championship (Munster Express, Sat. 11 Nov. 1922, p. 6). After winning the Leinster Senior Football Championship, Dublin went on to become the All-Ireland Senior Football Champions (Kilkenny People, Fri. 22 Oct. 1976, p. 10) beating the Connaght Champions, Galway.
Please send any corrections, further information, or photos to glenmore.history@gmail.com.
For previous articles on Glenmore football see, [1] our post of 24 April 2022;
[2] “The Roaring Twenties: Glenmore’s Championship 1920 Senior Football Match Played in Feb. 1922,”
published on 20 Febuary 2022;
[3] “Glenmore Football During the Roaring Twenties: 1920-1921,” published on 9 August 2021;
[4] “Kilkenny Gaelic Football Team: USA Champions 1920,” published on 29 April 2021;
[5] “Long Road to VIctory: Glenmore 1916 Senior Football Co. Kilkenny Champions,” published on 7 February 2021;
[6] “Michael J. Hanrahan (1888-1968): Early Twentieth Century Gaelic Football on Both Sides of the Atlantic,” published on 28 November 2020;
[7] “The Tenacious Glenmore 1915 Football Team: Co. Kilkenny Senior Football Champions,” published on 11 October 2020;
[8] “The Glenmore Football Club: The Trials and Tragedies of the 1906 Co. Kilkenny Gaelic Football Champions,” published on 30 August 2020.
Dr. Kathleen Moore Walsh
Childhood Games Played in Glenmore in 1938
National Folklore Commission
Between 1937 and 1939, 5000 primary schools in Ireland participated in recording local information for the National Folklore Commission. Over 288,000 pages were created by students in exercise books. Students in all 26 counties were asked to collect information ranging from oral history, topographical information, folklore, legends, riddles, pastimes, games, trades and crafts by interviewing their parents, grandparents and neighbours.
From 15 Nov. 1937 to 7 Dec. 1938 a dozen students in the Ballyfacey, Glenmore National School, under teacher Domhnall Mac Cárthaigh, participated in the School Collection. The Ballyfacey Glenmore School Collection (Vol. 845, pp 484-596) is available on line and may be found in Roll Number 9880.) For our previous post regarding this collection see our post of 27 June 2022.
Topic: Games I Play
Today, we are going to feature the topic entitled “Games I Play.” Although it is always interesting to read about the type of childhood games our grandparents or great-grandparents played before television and computers this material is more important because it was written by the children themselves and preserved. Julian Smith has noted that archival documents pertaining to children are selective, generally written by adults with their own biases towards children especially their own children.
The archaeology of childhood is a relatively new field that questions assumptions made concerning our past. (Julian Smith, “Child’s Play,” 63(3) Archaeology (2010) p. 40-45). More generally, the importance of play for children has been recognised as key to developing skills for getting along with peers, learning rules, learning sanctions for breaking rules, developing memory skills such as with the recitation of rhymes, developing creativity, resourcefulness and problem solving as well as providing physical activity for motor skills etc.
The Nine Children
There were 9 children who recorded games these children included: Patrick Phelan, of Ballywairy, Glenmore, p. 526-528 (4 April 1938); Mary Aylward, of Ballyfacey Lower, Glenmore, p. 529-530 (20 July 1938); Mary Phelan, Ballywairy, Glenmore, p. 531-532, (26 July 1938); Peggy Aylward, of Ballyfacey Lower, Glenmore, p. 532-533 (25 July 1938); Michael Fitzgerald, of Moulerstown, Glenmore, p. 533-534 (26 July 1938); William Roche, of Haggard, Glenmore, p. 535-536 (undated); Eddie O’Connor, of Ballyfacey Lower, Glenmore, p. 536-537 (20 July 1938); Peter O’Connor, of Ballyfacey Lower, Glenmore, p. 537-538 (17 July 1938); Joseph Synnott of Weatherstown, Glenmore, p. 538-539 (18 July 1938); and James Culleton of Kilbride, Glenmore, p. 540 (undated).
The Games
The games with explanations are listed in alphabetical order first and game mentioned without explanations are listed thereafter with the rhymes recorded. Given the popularity of Gaelic football in Glenmore in the 1920’s it is surprising that none of the children included football or hurling in their list of games. Most of the games listed were played with stones and sticks although one game did mention the use of a ball and another the use of dice. Original wording is employed and editorial notes or comments are in square brackets [ ].
All the Robbers Going Through—”All the robbers going through is played by sending two away and [these] decide upon two things. All the rest answer what they would like and go behind whoever [of the two] had that and then pull against the others.2 [Sounds like a human tug of war.]
Blind Man’s Bluff—”Blind man’s bluff can be played by any number. One person is blindfolded and tries to catch the others while in that way.”
Carry the Lady to London—[a short description appears to be that two children grasp each other’s hands and a third child sits on their hands and is carried.]
Colours—Colours are played by taking a colour and another person would try and guess it.
Den—”Den is a very common game with me and some other boys. This is the way played. One remains inside a certain space while the others is going away a distance from him. Then he runs after the rest trying to catch them. If they are able to get into that space they will win. This is played out in the open air.”
Donkey—“Donkey is a game played by two or more. It is played by throwing a ball from one to another and whoever lets the ball fall as many times as there are letters in the word donkey he is a donkey and he is laughed at and mocked.”
Duck—”Duck can be played by any number of persons. It is played by putting a small stone on top of a large one while each person in turn tries to knock off the small stone by throwing another stone at it.”
Four Corner Fool—Played by 5 children. “one stands in the centre of a rectangle formed by four stones with four persons standing at each stone. The four persons leap from stone to stone exchanging places while the person in the centre watches his chance to get a place at one of the stones and the person who loses his place has to go in the centre and do likewise.”
A variation was also played—Three Corner Fool—”A boy is put in each of three corners of a room and another boy in the middle. The boy in the middle is known as the fool. Those in the corners must change from one corner to another and if the boy in the middle can get in to one the corners a different boy is the fool.” [It was not explained how this might be played in a room with four corners.]
Heck-a-peck is standing on one leg and kicking a stone on a certain line.
Hide & Seek—”Hide and seek is played by two or more persons. One goes and hides and the other searches for him until he finds him.”
Hide the Button—”Hide the button is played by putting a button in one of your hands and somebody else would say ‘Pe Po Paddy pin, open the door and let me in, if I am a fairy king I shall surely win.’” Another child recited this verse for this game, “cut a sin a ma ma ma ma ma.”
Another child explained, “Cunnie sé the má má má” or hide the button, in which a button is hidden by one of them in one of the children’s hand and whichever of them is guessing guesses wrongly he will get a slap on the hand and the person who guesses rightly he or she will be left hide it and the person that hid it before will have to guess.”
Katty—Katty or Kattie is played by making a circle and putting a stone in the centre and throwing up the kattie and getting three strokes off it. It was played by girls with a short piece of stick pointed at both ends.
Another child provided more detail, “First I would make a ring and put a stone in the middle. Then I would bat and another person would pelt up the kattie to the ring and I would get three hits off it and if it did not go more than two jumps away I would be out. When the kattie is pelted up and if it went into the ring I could not get any hit off of it. When it is half ways in on the line two hits can be got off it. When the kattie goes a good distance away four or six jumps can be given. No uneven number can be given.”

Marbles—Marbles is a game among boys. “Playing marbles is a common game also. We make three holes in the ground and try and get the marbles into them three times up and down. When we have it in that many times we lodge the marble. Then we try and hit each other and who ever will do that will win.”
Playing on Rye Grass—[used perineal rye grass]You say “Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Sailor, rich man, poor man, pothecary, weaver” and whatever you end on you will be married to that type of person. This was played “by knocking off the clumps off the grass” and when all the clumps were removed the category of husband was selected.
Another version–High boots, Low boot’s, Brogues, Slippers. Is a game played with the same kind of a plant to find out what kind of shoes you will be getting.”
Prisoner—”Another game we play is trying to bring one another to jail. One pack would be guards and another prisoners. The guards try to bring the prisoners to jail for doing such a thing.”
Púcín—Púcín is a game played by children. One of the children is blindfolded and he is to catch some one of the others in the kitchen.
Ring-a-ring-a-rosies—”is played by catching hands and saying ‘a ring a ring a rosies, pockets full of posies, chainies on the ditches, picking sally switches, asha asha we all fall down.’”
Rounders—”Rounders is played by three or more persons. One has a bat defending wickets against another who throws a ball intending to strike the wickets, but the other strikes the ball with the bat and sends it off. He then runs in a circle marked out by the players and tries to make as many runs as possible before a third person reaches the ball.”
See-saw—”is a very exciting game. The way to play it is as follows: A log of timber is got and put across a ditch or a horrizontal circular beam of timber. When this is completed a boy sits on one end of the log and another boy on the other end and they weigh each other up and down.”
Skipping—Skipping is played by turning a rope and jumping.
Skittles—Skittles is a game that is played by boys. Five small sticks are used and three big ones called pelters.
Snakes & Ladders—Snakes and ladders is played by putting a cube [dice]into a box and shaking and if you are at the mouth of a snake you go down to the foot of it. [Believe this was a board game which is similar to the modern version.]
Snap Apple—Snap apple is a game played by girls on November Eve by snapping with your mouth at an apple tied from a cord from the ceiling.
Spy—”Spy is played by two. One goes behind a wall or fence and the other comes from a certain place and takes a quick look at the person behind the wall or fence. He then runs back and the other chases him intending to catch him before he reaches the place where he came from.”
Three legged race is run by two people together with two of their legs tied.
Other Games
Games listed with no instructions of how they were played include: Boxes; Ludo; I Bought a Horse Today Sir; Going to the Cinema; Drafts/Draughts; Rings; Coising; Goose; and Fox & Goose.
Rhymes Recorded
Roger is dead in his lonely grave, they planted an apple tree over his head, the apples got ripe and they all fell off, There came an old woman picking them up. Roger got up and he gave her a kick. This was played by “one would be picking something and the other would give him a kick.”
Mulberry bush–the verse is said when playing it is this “here we go round the Mulberry bush, the Mulberry bush, the Mulberry bush, here we go round the Mulberry bush, on a cold and frosty morning.”
Another game is played by turning a burning stick around quickly, and these words are said “Robin robin your life is lark, if you lay in my fist I will saddle your back, sticks and stones and dead mens’ bones, and around goes robin lark.” Other local rhymes can be found in our blog post of 11 Jan. 2020.
If there are any corrections or additional information please send it to glenmore.history@gmail.com. For a brief description of games played at Glenmore funerals see our post of 8 Dec. 2019.
The featured painting of the boys clasping hands was from an old postcard. The artist was John H. Bufford (1810-1870) and is by courtesy of the ARTSTOR on-line library available at https://library.artstor.org/public/28063331 (accessed 27 Nov. 2022).
The black and white photo of boys playing marbles (1943) is from Julian Smith’s article, “Child’s Play,” 63(3) Archaeology (2010) p. 44.
Dr. Kathleen Moore Walsh
BALLINCLARE, GLENMORE (1961)
Today, we are going to feature information that Danny Dowling recorded regarding the residents of the townland of Ballinclare, Glenmore, around 1961. The Irish for this townland, according to Kelly’s, Place Names of County Kilkenny (1969, p. 111), Baile an chlair translates to place of the plank or wooden bridge. The townland is comprised of 326 acres. Ballinclare is one of the shortest entries in Kelly’s book.
In the 1829 Tithe Applotment Books, Mr. David O’Neill Power, Esq. was the landlord of townland of Ballinclare. Additionally, he owned Ballyhobuck, Ballinamona, Gaulstown, and Ballinlammy. The tenants of the townland of Ballinclare included: Philip Aylward (69 acres); John Walsh (29 acres); and Martin Doherty; Patrick Kennedy; Richard Phelan; Philip Walsh (the last 4 tenants together had 71 acres).
Danny Dowling in 1961 recorded 3 families or households in Ballinclare. Birthdates or birth years are provided for some of the older residents gleaned from available public records. For some time after drafting his notebook, Danny recorded the dates of death or simply recorded that a resident had died or left the townland. No death notations are recorded for this townland. The recorded information reveals that in 1961, 21 people resided in Ballinclare with the population comprised of 9 males and 12 females. The Kennedy family was the largest family with 11 family members in the household. There were no households where it was recorded that a single person lived alone.
Recorded Residents
Males= 9
Females=12
Eldest Recorded Resident = The oldest Ballinclare resident was Mary Aylward née Irish (1882-1969). Mary was 79 years old in 1961. She was the widow of Michael Aylward and they had a large family. Mary’s obituary is located on our Family “A” Surname page.
Recorded Work
Farmer = 3 (3 males)
Farm Labourer/Worker= 2 (2 males)
Shorthand/typist = 1 (1 female)
BALLINCLARE RESIDENTS
[1] AYLWARD
Aylward, Richard (c. 1917) Farmer
Aylward, Mary, wife
Aylward, Thomas, nephew, farm worker
Aylward, Mary (28 Feb. 1882) mother
[2] BARRON
Barron, Stephen (5 Feb. 1909—6 Jan. 1977) Farmer
Barron, Margaret (10 April 1906—29 April 1990) wife
Hartley, Kathleen, daughter, shorthand/typist
Barron, Thomas, son
Barron, Mary, daughter
Hartley, John, son-in-law, assisting farm
[3] KENNEDY
Kennedy, John (1 March 1910) Farmer
Kennedy, Bridget (13 Aug. 1911) wife
Kennedy, Josie, daughter
Kennedy, Martin, son
Kennedy, Margaret, daughter
Kennedy, Patrick, son
Kennedy, Sean, son
Kennedy, Bridget, daughter
Kennedy, Katie, sister
Kennedy, Anne, daughter
Kennedy, Annie (1 Nov. 1907) sister
The featured photo above was published in the Munster Express (3 Nov. 1961, p. 15) and shows a group of Glenmore farmers, at the Kilkenny farmer’s protest. The farmers were protesting against the raising of rates.
Please send any additional information, corrections or photos to glenmore.history@gmail.com.
Dr. Kathleen Moore Walsh
One Hundred Years Ago: November 1922
The Civil War continued in November 1922 with intended and unintended consequences. In Dublin four men were executed by the Irish Free State for being in possession of handguns, but the most famous execution that month was Erskine Childers. Today, we are going to feature local events that were published in local newspapers in November 1922. In addition to the usual Glenmore train robberies, Hanrahan’s “grocery establishment” in Glenmore Village was raided by Irregulars. It was reported that the value of the items stolen was £10 (Kilkenny People, Sat. 4 Nov. 1922, p. 7).
The Civil War Locally
In general, there were less reported attacks on barracks during the month of November. However, the attacks on infrastructure such as bridges and railways continued. On Saturday the 28th of October at about 8 p.m. the National Troops stationed at Thomastown were attacked by a party of Irregulars. The shots appeared to be coming from all directions. A large number of people were on the streets at the time and fled into shops and private homes The garrison vigorously returned fire which continued for about twenty minutes. “While the firing lasted there was much consternation amongst women and children, many had to walk two miles to their homes.” On Sunday night at about 11 p.m. the garrison was again attacked from the heights overlooking the town. The shooting continued for about 10 minutes. “Beyond a few bullet marks on some of the houses there was no harm done” (New Ross Standard, Fri. 3 Nov. 1922, p. 8).
There were also less reports of arrests, however two boys were arrested in New Ross. A boy named Brady of Cross Lane, was arrested by National Troops in North street. It was reported that when Brady was searched despatches were found inside his shirt. He was detained. On the same day a boy named Dougherty, of Rosbercon, was arrested, and the troops searched his house and found, it is alleged, some uniforms belonging to the Fianna. He was released that evening (New Ross Standard, Fri. 3 Nov. 1922, p. 5). There were some escapes reported. Locally, Thomas Ryan, Bonnybrook, Thomastown, escaped from the Kilkenny Military Barracks on Sunday night and was recaptured by National troops at Gowran (New Ross Standard, Fri. 17 Nov 1922, p. 7). Accidents also continued. Volunteer Michael Bowe of the Irish National Army accidently shot himself through his big toe on his right foot. He was on sentry duty at the Waterford bridge at the time of the shooting. He was taken to Ballybricken prison hospital for treatment (Munster Express, Sat. 25 Nov. 1922, p. 6).
Not only did attacks on railways continue the methods of attacks became more dangerous and disruptive. For example, on the morning of the 2nd of November a special coal train from Waterford to Limerick was derailed between Ballyhale and Mullinavat. One rail was removed; the fireman, driver and guard were taken off the train, and the steam engine and waggons were driven off the line. The derailed train landed on the embankment. The removal of a rail to cause detailments were reported widely. Also on the 2nd of November the Newrath signal cabin was set on fire. Portions of the building were destroyed and the “cabin instruments were considerably damaged” (Waterford News and Star, Fri. 3 Nov. 1922, p. 4).
Roads and bridges continued to be attacked. Forty-six bridges were destroyed in North Tipperary with an estimated cost of repair of £12,000 (New Ross Standard, Fri. 3 Nov. 1922, p. 3). In Wexford a group of local farmers and labourers fed up with a tree that was blocking the road from Enniscorthy to Adamstown, at Stone’s Park, Wilton removed the tree. While they were clearing the road two armed men appeared and threatened them. It was reported that the farmers and labourers paid no attention to the threats. During the night two new trees were felled in the same vicinity again blocking the road (New Ross Standard, Fri. 17 Nov. 1922, p. 8).
From some newspaper accounts it is difficult to discern whether the actions were the activities of the Civil War or mere criminality. Railway wires were cut between Waterford and New Ross on the morning of Friday the 3rd of November. The up-mail train was held up on Friday evening between Glenmore and Waterford by twelve armed men at a steep embankment 5 miles from Waterford near the Glenmore station. The men ordered the passengers to remain seated and not to look out the windows. The armed men entered the guard’s van and searched it. After a prolonged search they removed some parcels and bicycles. On the following Monday a group of Oriel House Officers while returning to Dublin from New Ross arrested two men on bicycles. One of the men admitted that the new bicycle in his possession was stolen in a train robbery. On the evening of the 8th the up goods train was held up by armed men between Glenmore and Waterford. Although it was delayed a good while, it is not known what if anything was stolen (New Ross Standard, Fri, 10 Nov. 1922, p. 8; Waterford News & Star, Fri 10 Nov. 1922 p. 9).
Even river boats were targeted by armed men. The river barges carrying goods from Waterford to Carrick-on-Suir were raided on the 3rd of November between Fiddown and Carrick by armed men. Bacon, tea and sugar were stolen (Munster Express, Sat. 11 Nov. 1922, p. 6).
Two licensed premises were raided in New Ross in late October or early November. Michael Corcoran, Irishtown, New Ross reported that masked men entered his premises after he had closed on the 27th of October and seized the cash box. Corcoran resisted and was pistol whipped. On an undisclosed date Miss Redmond, of Irishtown, just before closing reported that armed men entered her premises and took money (New Ross Standard, Fri.3 Nov. 1922, p. 5). While a dance was in progress in Stonyford on Sunday the 12th, armed men entered and ordered the dancers to disperse. The dancers quickly complied (New Ross Standard, Fri. 17 Nov. 1922, p. 7).
On the 13th of November three men entered a pawnshop at 35 Michael Street, Waterford and requested to see some field glasses. The owner of the pawnshop, Charles Reginald Boyce, aged 24, attempted to stop the men from stealing his property. Boyce was shot and killed. An inquest was held the following day and various witnesses reported different aspects of the murder. Phillip Fanning, of 37 Thomas’s Hill, testified that he was an assistant in the shop and ran for help as soon as he heard a scuffle and one of the men would not let him back into the pawnshop. Anne Boyce, the murder victim’s sister, worked in an adjoining shop and testified that when one of the men entered her portion of the premises she attempted to grab the field glasses from him. He pushed her into her counter and ran back into the pawnshop. A shot was then heard, and she found her brother dying. When the foreman of the inquest jury stated to Miss Boyce that she showed great courage in grappling with the robber she sadly commented, “if I had let him get away then he could not have shot my brother” (New Ross Standard, Fri. 17 Nov. 1922, p. 2).
The following receipt was found at the scene of the Boyce murder “Oghlaigh Na h-Eireann. Received from Messrs. Boyce, Michael Street, six pairs of field glasses on this date. (Signed) Battalion Brigade, Adjunct” (Munster Express, Sat. 18 Nov. 1922, p. 6). The Munster Express published that the murder victim’s mother received the following note “Irish Republican Defence Force, H.Q., Waterford, Nov. 14th, 1922. Dear Madam, on behalf of the officers and men of the above force, respectfully bid to tender sincere sympathy to you on the death of your son, Charles. We trust that you in no way connect the above force with this raid, and I can assure you that this matter is receiving thorough investigation. Signed, Adjt. IRDF.” The deceased was laid to rest in the Protestant cemetery (Munster Express, Sat. 18 Nov. 1922, p. 4)
Economic Impact

The New Ross Standard noted that cash was scarce. The high prices obtained for all produce and abundance of money poured into the country during the war (WW I) naturally made people extravagant, and nearly all sections of the public are better clothed and fed than they were prior to the war. With the high cost of living there was a gradual falling off in cash, and the editor proclaimed “the lean years are now upon many sections of the public.” Merchants complained that there was little business except by credit. People who borrowed from the banks at a high rate of interest to purchase land, business and stocks at very highly inflated prices were able to meet repayments during the war, but subsequently prices dropped and many “find themselves in unenviable positions.” With the disturbed state of the country, the dislocation of traffic by steamboat, railways and road, made it impossible to make money. There was little or no employment in the country. “Instead of being better now that we have got the management of our own affairs the condition of Ireland is much worse than it has been for some years. Money earmarked for reforms and reconstruction is devoted to restore order. Dis-improvement and deterioration appear to be the order of the day. Business is held up everywhere…there is no money stirring, and the country has become demoralised.” “We have not the British Government to contend with now” (New Ross Standard, Fri. 17 Nov. 1922, p. 4).
In November 1922, after thanking local Waterford businesses for their generosity in the past, the committee that raised funds for the poor cancelled their usual Christmas Bazaar. Although it is not explicitly stated in the article the poor economy in which businesses were struggling was probably the cause of the cancellation. It was decided that the committee would arrange for a number of different entertainments to be held in Town Hall during Christmas week (Munster Express, Sat. 18 Nov. 1922, p. 4).
On the other hand, the barley farmers thought international forces such as Prohibition in the U.S. was the cause of the depressed barley markets. At the November meeting of the Kilkenny Farmers’ Union the attendees discussed what should be done about the surplus of barley. The secretary of the organisation stated that he had received replies from a few creameries in the south of the county prepared to buy kiln-dried barley or barley for malting at £10 per ton delivered. “Glenmore was a barley growing district…and…there were people who had got only 15s. per barrel and they had to pay carriage.” In Carlow town barley had been sold for 8s. and 9s. per barrel for feeding. It was argued that Prohibition in the U.S. was responsible for holding down the price of barley in Ireland. Prices before Prohibition were 45s. per barrel. South Kilkenny was the biggest pig feeding district in Ireland. After much arguing about whether to start piggeries for the feeding of barley the meeting broke up without reaching a decision (Kilkenny People, Sat. 18 Nov. 1922, p. 3).
An unusual commentary on farmers and their economic guiding principles was printed in the Munster Express. The editor opined that “As long as there are rural districts in Ireland, there will be farmers, and as long as there are farmers the science of thrift will not pass away…the pony and trap will continue to travel the road to infinity. The average farmer views with suspicion all moving things not classified as livestock, and saleable at the Christmas fair (Munster Express, Sat. 18 Nov. 1922, p. 6).
Schools
It was reported that the recent spell of harsh weather caused a “series of epidemics” in the way of colds, measles etc. In several places in the country districts children have been laid up with measles (New Ross Standard, Fri. 3 Nov. 1922, p. 8).
In early November the results of students in the Christian Brothers of New Ross were published. Two Glenmore scholars were mentioned.
“Junior Grade—Florence Ivory of Glenmore—passes Irish, English, Arithmetic, Algebra, Geometry, Commerce, Physics and Chemistry, Second Year’s Course.” [Florence Ivory was born 4 January 1906 the son of John Ivory (farmer) and his wife, Mary née McCarthy. Florence went on to become a National Teacher, married and died on 12 November 1969 and was residing in Stonyford, Kilkenny at the time of his death.]
“William Murphy (Glenmore)—Passes—Arithmetic, Algebra, Geometry, Commerce, Physics and Chemistry, Second Year’s Course.” A note at the end of the article details that commerce in each Grade includes the following branches—book-keeping, business methods, copying manuscript, commercial geography and writing (New Ross Standard, Fri. 3 Nov. 1922, p. 4).
Life Went On
One of the more interesting news items not related to the Civil War concerned the electrification of Thomastown. After the elected lights were installed in Thomastown, the oil lamps formerly used there were transferred to Inistioge and Bennetsbridge (New Ross Standard, Fri. 17 Nov 1922, p. 7).
Anyone passing the railway station in Ferrybank recently may have observed the current work on securing the cliff face behind the station. The Munster Express reported 100 years ago that “A portion of the rock face at Mount Misery, opposite the arrival platform at Waterford North station detached from the face of the cliff.” The large boulders smashed one of the wooden protection culverts. The weather was blamed. “Workmen have regularly been engaged in paring the rock face at various points” (Munster Express, Sat. 4 Nov. 1922, p. 4).
On the 29th of October Glenmore played De La Salle, of Waterford City. They played in Slieverue in a field kindly provided to them by “Mr. Rockett, Slieverue.” Glenmore won the match with a score of 3 goals, 7 points to 1 goal, 3 points (New Ross Standard, Fri. 3 Nov. 1922, p. 8). We have further football matches to report in a separate post.
No Glenmore deaths were reported in the November local papers.
The advertisement above from November 1922, for Holden and Hanrahan, New Ross, was owned by two Glenmore men, Richard “Dick” Hanrahan (1892-1975) and Walter Holden of Clune, Glenmore. Dick Hanrahan’s (1892-1975) brother Patrick “Pat” Hanrahan (1886-1957) owned and operated the “grocery establishment” robbed in November 1922. For more information on the Hanrahan brothers, of Glenmore, see our post of 6 December 2020.
The feature photo above is courtesty of the Freeman’s Journal (2 Dec. 1922, p. 3) and depicts a cyclist having his documents examined by an Irish National soldier.
Please send any corrections or additional information to glenmore.history@gmail.com.
Dr. Kathleen Moore Walsh
