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Thatched Houses in Glenmore at the End of WWII

Danny Dowling (1929-2021) made lists of various local things including: local Irish words, Mass Paths, elderly parish residents and thatched houses in Glenmore at the end of WWII. Thatch was the traditional roof in Glenmore prior to the twentieth century. The Second World War ended in 1945, and it appears that thatch roofs were then in the minority. Below is Danny’s list of the 35 houses identified and their respective townlands. The list is not dated. We note that several townlands are not included. The entire original list with notes from Danny is included. Any comments or additional houses that have been added are is square brackets [ ].

  1. Jack Forristal, of Cappagh (Bolger’s) [today Frankie Kirwan’s].
  2. Greene’s, of Jamestown
  3. Wattie Power, of Jamestown
  4. Anne Gaule, of Busherstown
  5. Johanna Closh Walsh, of Busherstown
  6. Main Gaule, of Busherstown
  7. Neddie Power, of Busherstown
  8. Anne Doherty, of Busherstown
  9. Doherty’s, of Milltown (part of)
  10. Haberlin’s, of Forristalstown
  11. Grace’s, of Forristalstown
  12. Jimmy Doherty’s, of Forristalstown
  13. Statia Butler, of Ballycroney
  14. Seamus Fitzgerald, of Ballycroney
  15. Dick Power, of Ballybrahee
  16. Dick Murphy, of Robinstown
  17. Pat Grant, of Robinstown
  18. Reddy’s, of Robinstown
  19. Neddie (Watts) Fitzgerald, of Ballinaraha
  20. Brophy’s, of Ballinaraha
  21. Moran’s, of Ballinlammy
  22. Doherty’s, of Ballinlammy
  23. Gahan’s, of Rochestown
  24. Shawn’s, of Rochestown [nickname for 1 of the Forristal families of Rochestown. We believe that this was the home of John Forristal (c. 1838-1915) and his wife Mary née Reddy (c.1851-1917). The couple were married at Glenmore on 31 Aug. 1880 and had five children; Bridget, James, John, Thomas and Patrick.]
  25. James “Browley” Walsh, of Rochestown
  26. Larry Walsh, of Rochestown
  27. Foran’s, of Kearney Bay
  28. James Phelan “The Walker”, of Ballyhobuck
  29. Larry Kirwan, of the Shanty [Scartnamore]
  30. John Kennedy, of Rathinure [Sean Óg where Johnny Garvey lives today]
  31. Pat Kennedy, of Rathinure [The Faddies]
  32. John Haberlin, of Aylwardstown
  33. Jim “Brien” Fitzgerald, of Aylwardstown
  34. Ryan’s, of Kearney Bay
  35. Pat Ryan, of Kearney Bay (Cousin of Mike Ryan, went to Ringville)

The following not on Danny’s original list
[37] [Johnny “Billy” Roche, of Rathinure] [Thatched house remained until 1972]
[38] [Holden’s, of Clune, Jamestown]
[39] [Paddy Kennedy, of Newtown]
[40] [John Power, of Newtown]
[41] [Martin Forristal, of Rochestown]
[42] [Paddy Mullally, of Ballyhobuck] [Later Walsh’s of Ballyhobuck]

Please send any corrections or additional information to glenmore.history@gmail.com

Dr. Kathleen Moore Walsh

Kearneysbay, Glenmore (1961)

Today, we are going to feature information Danny Dowling (1927-2021) recorded regarding the residents of the townland of Kearneysbay, Glenmore, in 1961. This townland has been spelled multiple ways over the past three centuries. Sometimes it is spelled without an “s” as Kearneybay. Sometimes it is spelled as two separate words Kearney’s Bay. Some 19th century newspapers spelled it Carney Bay.

Background

The Irish for this townland, according to O’Kelly’sThe Place Names of the County of Kilkenny Ireland (1969, p. 113) is  Trian an ri, or the King’s third. The townland is comprised of 141 acres. “The ‘third’ is an ancient land measure term. There is another townland in the parish [Kilcollumb] far removed from here called Trinaree. James Kearney of Kearneysbay held lands in Parkstown, Ballyvoulera, Luffany and Kearneysbay according to his will registered in the Registry of Deeds Office, Dublin, on 9th May, 1754 —from Abstract of Wills, Vol. II by P. Beryl Eustace.”

Tithe Appotment Books 1829

In 1829, Major Charles Kearney held 139 acres and was the only person listed in the applotment books for Kearneysbay.

Landlord of Kearneysbay, Glenmore, Charles Kearney (c. 1787-1871)

Major Charles Kearney (c. 1787-1871) of the 2d Dragoon Guards, or Queen’s Bays married Mary Anne Massy of Limerick. The bride was the youngest daughter of Hon. George Eyre Massy, of Limerick City (Dublin Weekly Register, Sat. 17 October 1829, p. 8).

Major Kearney was promoted to Lieut.-Col. in 1837 “by purchase” (Dorset County Chronicle, Thur. 2 Nov. 1837).  Kearney died on 24 July 1871,”at his residence, 3, Upper Brook street, Grosvenor square, London.” He died in his 85th year (Waterford Standard, Sat. 29 July 1871, p. 3) His widow, Mary Anne died on the 31st of August 1886, at Homburg (Dublin Daily Express, Fri. 10 Sept. 1886, p. 1).

1961 Kearneysbay, Glenmore

In 1961, Danny recorded three families or households in the townland of Kearneysbay. Birthdates or birth years are provided for some of the older residents gleaned from available public records. For some time after drafting his notebook, Danny recorded the dates of death or simply recorded that a resident had died or left the townland.

Danny’s recorded information reveals that in 1961, ten people resided in the townland of Kearneysbay, with the population comprised of 9 males and 1 female. The largest family was the Heffernan family with 8 in the household. There were 2 households recorded with a single person living alone in each house. All information under residents of Kearneysbay not in Danny’s original list has been placed in square brackets [   ].

Recorded Kearneysbay, Glenmore Residents (1961)

Males= 9
Females= 1

Eldest Recorded Resident

The eldest resident recorded by Danny in 1961 in Kearneysbay, Glenmore was Thomas Foran (b. 14 Jan. 1885) who was 76 years of age in 1961. A headstone in St. James’s Cemetery provides that Thomas died 22 June 1973, aged 88.  The birth register and parish baptismal records provides that Thomas Foran was born on the 4th of January 1885 the son of John Foran (farmer) of Kearneysbay and his wife Ellen Power. Mary Foran of Robinstown was present at his birth and registered his birth on the 13th of January 1885.

Kearneysbay, Glenmore Residents 1961

Kearneysbay, Glenmore Lime Kiln (photo by Brian Forristal)

[1] HEFFERNAN

Heffernan, Thomas (10 Mar. 1888-12 Jan. 1965) Farmer
Heffernan, Michael (b. 22 Mar. 1916) son, assisting relative [per headstone 1916-1988]
Heffernan, Mary, daughter-in-law [per headstone née Doherty (1931-2015)]
Heffernan, Thomas, grandson [per headstone 1929-2003 buried in Calif.]
Heffernan, John, grandson
Heffernan, Christopher, grandson
Heffernan, Desmond, grandson
Dunphy, Thomas (b. 14 Dec. 1894) employee, farm labourer

[2] FORAN

Foran, Thomas (b. 14 Jan. 1885) Retired Labourer.  [See above, Tom Foran died 22 June1973].

[Tom Foran lived in a long thatched house down at the end of Kearneysbay road. He was a big man and spent most of his life in the merchant navy. Tom Foran was in England and came across another Glenmore man reared in Aylwardstown, Foxy Wattie Power’s brother. The Power man was in a fight and was so covered with blood Tom Foran said that his own mother wouldn’t recognise him. “But he stuck it out and beat the other fella.” (Tom Walsh (1908-1992) of Rathinure, Glenmore)] For further information see our F surname page.

[3] RYAN

Ryan, Patrick (b. 1917) Farm Labourer  [Per newspaper notice died in July 1973].

[Paddy Ryan collapsed and died as he was about to enter a cot to go fishing on the River Barrow. His brother, Dermot Ryan (Kilmakevogue, Glenmore) was with Paddy when he collapsed and died. For further information see our family R surname page.]

Please send any corrections, additional information or photos to glenmore.history@gmail.com.

Dr. Kathleen Moore Walsh