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The Roaring Twenties: Glenmore’s Championship 1922 Senior Football Final

As highlighted in previous articles Glenmore won the 1920 Kilkenny Senior Football Final in February 1922 against their old rivals Cloneen. (Please see our blog post of 20 February 2022 for further details regarding the 1920 final played in February 1922). On the 5th of November 1922, nine of the Glenmore 1920 championship team members played for Kilkenny in the Leinster Final. See our blog post of 4 December 2022 for details regarding the 1922 Leinster Final. This Kilkenny team also contained three players from Cloneen. Seven days after the Leinster Final, Glenmore played Cloneen for the Kilkenny 1922 Senior Football Final. The County Final was played in St. James’s Park, Kilkenny City. Perhaps the most surprising aspect of the 1922 Kilkenny Senior Football Final was that it was played actually in 1922. It also was described as a “… clean game entirely devoid of shady tactics, and the referee had an easy task” (Kilkenny People, Sat. 18 Nov. 1922, p. 4). Most of the following description of the County championship final was gleaned from the Kilkenny People (Sat. 18 Nov. 1922, p. 4).
Kilkenny Senior Football Championship Final 1922
A moderate crowd gathered at St. James’s Park on Sunday the 12th of November 1922 to watch the contest between the old rivals—Glenmore and Cloneen—in the county championship for 1922. “The evening was admirable for the game, the weather being beautifully soft and calm and the pitch in splendid form. Glenmore fielded their championship team, but were without the services of their clever inter-county wing forward—Jimmy Hanrahan.” The Glenmore team included eight of the team which battled for Leinster honours earlier in November. The Glenmore team members “were in splendid form and gave a powerful display of strong and effective football.” Cloneen on the other hand was labelled, disorganised and without training. The newspaper reported that Cloneen had great difficulty and delay in fielding a full team. Notwithstanding these difficulties the Cloneen team members that showed up played in a “spirited manner in which they contested the issue to the final whistle.” The newspaper reported that this “reflects the highest credit on the good spirit of the once famous North Kilkenny team.”
The First Half
“The game, late in starting, was fought at a fairly fast pace both ends being visited in quick succession at the outset, but once settled down Glenmore took the upper hand and fielding in faultless fashion and delivering powerfully and judiciously they stormed their opponents citadel. The Cloneen backs defended in fine style, but despite their best efforts the clever combination of Connolly, Fitzgerald and Cody, ably supported by Doherty, had accounted for a big score at the interval when Glenmore led by 2 goals, 3 points to nil. [9 to 0] A goal had been disallowed Glenmore in this half for an infringement of the “parallelogram” rule, and a second goal was lost as the whistle had just gone for a foul. The efforts of Tommy Brennan, Hughes, Shield and Andy Brennan [Cloneen] were certainly worth a couple of scores in this half but being without their old forwards the chances went abegging.“
The Second Half
“Cloneen made some spirited dashes in the second half and play was of a fairly up and down character, but the rock-like defence of Irish, Cody, the Heffernans and Hartleys was unbeatable, though Cloneen notched a very fine goal and were certainly unlucky to lose a couple of chances. Cloneen are to be congratulated on their fine defece under almost constant pressure, but they had to yield to the inevitable and the Glenmore forwards, who were deadly accurate in their shooting further increased their lead and the final whistle left the score—Glenmore—3 goals, 5 points; Cloneen—1 goal.” [For our international readers a goal is worth 3 points, thus the final score was 14 to 3].
Commentary About the Game
The sports writer for the Kilkenny People (Sat. 18 Nov. 1922, p. 4) opined that Glenmore “gave a splendid exhibition their fielding being superb. Their fine and accurate deliveries played havoc” with Cloneen. Although it was a “very much one sided game” it was stated that it was nevertheless an interesting game with some fine passages of play. The Cloneen players, the Brennans and Hughes, all made a “great effort to save a lost cause, but their work was not sufficiently supported.” “All the Glenmore players lived up to their reputations—the Coadys, Irish, Connolly, Doherty, the Fitzgeralds, Heffernans and Hartleys contributing to the success of the team.” The coverage in the Muster Express (Sat. 18 Nov. 1922, p. 3) consisted of two sentences. “Glenmore defeated Cloneen in the final round of the Kilkenny Football Championships at Kilkenny on Sunday last. CLoneen made a very bad stand, and Glenmore ran out easy winners with a very large score to their credit.”
The sports writer for the Kilkenny People (Sat. 18 Nov. 1922, p. 4) concluded that Glenmore, “as an individual team it can be truly said that they have no equal in the province, not even among the best Dublin teams. Connolly again showed his aptitude for his position as a centre forward, some of his goals being marvellous.” The article then noted that “Many spectators were most anxious to know why Doherty was not given a place on the team which played in the Leinster Final. The selection committee only too well knew his worth and pressed him to take a place on the team, but he was adamant and more’s the pity.” Notwithstanding that the Civil War was still raging it was reported that “the members of the County Committee present were delighted that such a large number of National troops and officers patronised the fixture. It was encouraging to see our own army support our national pastime in such good numbers.”
The players of the 1922 Kilkenny Senior Football Final were:
Glenmore—J. Murphy; Martin Cody (Capt.); Paddy Cody; Andy Heffernan, of Aylwardstown; Stephen Heffernan, of Aylwardstown; J. Doherty; John Fitzgerald; P. Fitzgerald; J. Whelan; W. (Bill) Hartley, of Busherstown; J. Fitzgerald; Pat Hartley, of Busherstown; W. (Bill) Irish of Aylwardstown; Mick Connolly, of Rochestown, and Jimmy Roche, of Rathinure. [First names and townlands have been added to the newspaper list, so please send on corrections.]
Cloneen—M. Healy; T. Brennan (Capt.); P. Hughes; A. Brennan; A. McEvoy; P. Hughs; T. Brennan; J. Brennan; F. O’Grady; M. Langton; J. Shiel; J. Connors; R. Holohan; J. Phillips; P. Kavanagh.
Please send any further information or corrections to glenmore.history@gmail.com.
The featured photo above was taken in 1925 of the Glenmore Senior Football Team and is part of the Poole Collection (POOL_WP_2720a, POOL_K_4144 & POOL_WP_3651) and the photo is Courtesy of the National Library of Ireland.
Dr. Kathleen Moore Walsh
BALLINLAMMY, GLENMORE (1961) [updated]

Today, we are going to feature information that Danny Dowling (1927-2021) recorded regarding the residents of the townland of Ballinlammy, Glenmore around 1961.
Background
The Irish for this townland, according to O’Kelly’s, The Place Names of the County of Ireland (1969, p. 112) is Baile na léime, which translates as place of the jump. The townland is comprised of 612 acres and is found in the Civil Parish of Kilcolumb. The Irish Scholar John O’Donovan (1806-1861) provided this translation but made no reference to the jumping feat in his works. “The more ancient name was Baile Dhaith, David’s homestead, and the upper portion is called Baile Dhaith Mhoir, big David’s homestead. This is a very long narrow stretch of upland running north and south for almost 3 miles.” For further information on Slieverue born John O’Donovan see our post of 13 March 2021.
Tithe Applotment Books 1829
In the 1829 Tithe Applotment Books the townland of Ballinlammy’s landlord was David O’Neill Power Esq. (c. 1783-1863) of Snow Hill House, Slieverue. About the time of Griffith’s Valuation David O’Neill Power was adjudicated “a lunatic.” There were 11 tenancies listed in the Applotment Records for Ballinlammy, listed below with the associated statute acres. [1] Thomas Rochford, 82 acres; [2] Capt. Power (fox cover) 1 acre; [3] James Fitzgerald, 1 acre; [4] Edmond Costold & Richard Ryan, 102 acres; [5] John Walsh, 15 acres; [6] Martin Doherty & Patt Kennedy, 64 acres; [7] Robert Malone, 85 acres; [8] Martin Murphy, 3 acres; [9] Nicholas Murphy, 79 acres; [10] John & James Doherty, 61 acres; and [11] Michael & James Walsh, 33 acres.
Ballinlammy, Glenmore 1961
Danny Dowling’s mother was born and reared in Ballinlammy. In 1961, Danny recorded 11 families or households in Ballinlammy. Birthdates or birth years are provided for some of the older residents gleaned from available public records. For some time after drafting his notebook, Danny recorded the dates of death or simply recorded that a resident had died or left the townland. The recorded information reveals that in 1961, 53 people resided in Ballinlammy with the population comprised of 27 males and 24 females. The largest family was the Irish family with 11 in the household. There was no household recorded with a person living alone. All information under residents of Ballinlammy not in Danny’s original list has been placed in brackets[ ].
Recorded Residents of Ballinlammy, Glenmore 1961
Males= 28
Females=25
Eldest Recorded Resident= The eldest resident recorded in the townland was John Irish (1888-1963) who was 73 in 1961. John was the son of James Irish and his wife, Johanna Henneberry, of Ballinlammy. John was married to Brigid Irish née Murphy (1895—1987). The couple are believed to have had 19 children. Brigid was the daughter of Edward Murphy and his wife, Bridget Wall, of Davidstown, Glenmore. Brigid’s obituary may be found on our family I surname page.
Recorded Work
Farmer= 8 (7 Males; 1 Female)
Farm Worker= 8 (8 Males)
Carpenter =1 (1 Male)
Foundry Worker= 1 (1 Male)
Metal Worker=1 (1 Male)
Domestic= 3 (3 Females)
Shopkeeper=1 (1 Male)
Nurse=1 (1 Female)
Ballinlammy, Glenmore Residents 1961
[1] IRISH
Irish, John (10 Sept. 1888) Farmer (died 6 Feb. 1963)
Irish, Brigid (6 Feb. 1884 1895) wife [The correct year is 1895]
Irish, James, son, farm worker
Irish, Margaret, daughter-in-law
Irish, John G., grandson
Irish, Seamus, grandson
Irish, Breda, granddaughter
Irish, Catriona, granddaughter
Irish, Carmel, granddaughter
Irish, Robert, son, farm worker
Irish, Ryan, farm worker
[2] DOHERTY
Doherty, William (6 May 1892) Farmer
Doherty, Bridget (13 Feb. 1896) wife
Doherty, Michael, son, farm worker
Moore, Joseph, boarder (gone to Aylwardstown) [According to Danny Dowling’s notes Joe Moore came from Wexford and trapped rabbits].
[3] DOHERTY
Doherty, Patrick, Farmer
Doherty, Robert, brother, farm worker
Doherty, Mary, sister

[Doherty, Katie, sister, RGN in the County and City Infirmary, Waterford]
[Doherty, Patrick (c. 1887-1951) father]
[Doherty, Anastatia née Cody (c. 1894-1959) mother]
[4] WALSH
Walsh, Joseph, Carpenter
Walsh, Margaret, wife
Walsh, Gerard, son
Walsh, Bernadette, daughter
Walsh, Brendan, son
Doran, Julia, sister-in-law
[5] MORAN
Moran, Thomas (b. 1920) Farmer
Moran, Parker? (b. 1921) brother, foundry worker
[6] MURPHY
Murphy, Martin (3 June 1906) Farmer [Danny Dowling’s uncle]
Murphy, Elizabeth (3 June 1916) wife
Murphy, Michael, son
Murphy, Mary, daughter
Murphy, John Joe, son
Murphy, Patrick, son
[7] MURPHY
Murphy, Edmond, Farmer [known as Murphy’s of the Mountain]
Murphy, Brigid, mother
Murphy, Margaret, sister, domestic
Murphy, Mary Anne, sister
Murphy, Statia, sister, domestic
Murphy, Martin, brother, farm worker
Murphy, Bridget, sister, domestic
[8] MARTIN
Martin, Nicholas, Farm Labourer
Martin, Ellen, wife
Martin, Bridget, daughter
Martin, Mary, daughter
Martin, Henry, son
[9] MORAN
Moran, Robert (b. 1922) Metal Worker
Moran, Bridget (b. 1914) wife
Moran, Hubert, son
[10] WALSH
Walsh, Ellen, Farmer
Walsh, Thomas, son, farm worker
Walsh, Ellen, daughter
Walsh, Margaret, daughter
[11] HENNEBERRY
Henneberry, Nicholas (23 June 1912) Shopkeeper [Danny said the shop was in Waterford]
Henneberry, Joan, wife
[Update 23 Dec. 2022–one helpful reader remarked that the last two families [10] Walsh & [11] Henneberry were actually in Davidstown rather than Ballinlammy. The 1911 Census (the last publically released census) does provide that the Henneberry family resided in Davidstown. Over the years the townland divisions changed as well as the parish lines. Per Danny’s notes he sought to record residents similar to how he believed the Garda Siochana recorded residents as census collectors in 1961.]
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In the near future we hope to publish an article regarding landlord Davd O’Neill Power (c. 1783-1863) as well as a short article on Joe Moore and his time in Glenmore as recorded by Danny.
The featured photo above is of a movie poster of Butterfield 8 starring Elizabeth Taylor. For her role in this movie Elizabeth Taylor won her first Oscer in 1961 (Best Actress). Special thanks to Paraic Dowling who shared the photo of his grandmother Katie Murphy née Doherty on her first day of work at the Co. & City Infirmary, Waterford in Dec. 1949.
Please send any corrections or additional information to glenmore.history@gmail.com.
Dr. Kathleen Moore Walsh
Lighting the Glenmore Village Christmas Tree 2022

On Saturday, the 10th of December 2022, at 5:30 p.m. in the cold Glenmore residents, young and not so young, bundled up to witness the annual lighting of the Village Christmas tree. For those who are far away, or who were unable to attend, we recorded the event. Due to copyrite we were unable to use the music that was played at the event, but found a couple of substitutes. Santa made an appearance behind a vintage tractor and rocked. We hope you enjoy the short video. To view it please click on https://youtu.be/VUuD9QXBhxo.
Next Sunday afternoon, the 18th of December 2022, Glenmore History will have a small exhibit of historical items at the parish Christmas Bazaar. We are also going to have some old fashion leisure items for sale such as a variety of books from Danny Dowling’s vast book collection and jigsaw puzzles for anyone looking for some last minute, unique gifts or entertainment for the long winter nights.
Leinster Senior Football Final, Nov. 1922: Kilkenny vs. Dublin
From 1920 to 1930 nine Kilkenny Senior Football Championships were held, and Glenmore played in all nine of the Finals. There was no county championship in 1921. Glenmore won in 1920; 1922; 1923; 1924; and 1929. Today we are going to feature the Leinster Senior Football final played at Croke Park on the 5th of November 1922 between Kilkenny and Dublin. Nine of the fifteen Kilkenny players were from the Glenmore Senior Football team. The referee was Mr. J. Byrne of Wexford. Previously we published on 24 April 2022 the names of the Glenmore players and an account of the game found in the Kilkenny People. Today, we are covering the accounts in the Irish Independent and Munster Express. Although the country was suffering a civil war with daily attacks on railways and motor cars no mention of the difficulties associated with players attempting to travel to practice or to matches appeared in the newspaper coverage outside Kilkenny. However, it was noted that “the crowd was very small and threatening rain made matters disagreeable for everyone. The proceedings were enlivened by the music of the Artane School Band and the O’Toole’s Pipers” (Munster Express, Sat. 11 Nov. 1922, p. 4). This game was still being mentioned in local newspapers five decades after it was played (Kilkenny People, Fri. 22 Oct. 1976, p. 10).
Leinster Senior Football Final
Most of the account below was sourced from the Munster Express (Sat. 11 Nov. 1922, p. 4). First names and teams were added to the Kilkenny players mentioned in the newspaper account. Additional information was obtained from the Irish Independent ((Mon. 6 Nov. 1922, p. 9) including the figures of the match.
The First Half
From the throw in Dublin broke away but their movement was checked. Frank Hughes (Cloneen) sent wide from a free. Bill Irish (Glenmore) held up the Dublin offensive, and Kilkenny went on the attack and were rewarded with a free which was missed by Jimmy Hanrahan (Glenmore). Dublin dashed off on the kickout, and P. McDonnell (sec) sent the ball outside. The Kilkenny backs cleared a Dublin return and were given two frees. One free was at midfield and the second on the right wing awarded to Paddy Cody (Glenmore). Mick Connolly (Glenmore) took the free and sent it over the bar for a point. “With five minutes gone play of a high order was the rule, and Kilkenny, doing very well against the champions, caused their supporters to grow jubilant.”
“Good play by Carey, P. McDonnell and Johnny Synott ended in Dalton bringing off a splendid save in the Kilkenny goal. Dublin kept up the offensive, and P. McDonnell semt in a minor. Kilkenny responded with a determined rush, and the Dublin side had a close shave, J. McDonnell saving and clearing a low shot from Connolly (Glenmore). Kilkenny worked back and had a free which, well judged by J. McKenna (Cotterstown), ended in Mick Connolly (Glenmore) forcing a “50”. J. McKenna’s (Cotterstown) kick was neatly placed, but the Dublin end was crossed without result. Soon the Kilkenny backs were relieving in dashing style, and Frank Hughs (Cloneen) led the Marble County attacking. Martin Cody (Glenmore) centred for Jim Phelan (Glenmore) to shoot. Bill Irish (Glenmore) returned, and the Dublin end was again crossed. Dublin went to work in a determined fashion, but they had no impression on the Kilkenny backs. From a free P. McDonnell drove wide.
Kilkenny engaged in a vigorous offensive and Mick Connolly (Glenmore), receiving from Frank Hughes (Cloneen), scored a point. The pace was remarkable fast, and both sides were giving a “grand exhibition.” Kilkenny again got the upper hand and J. McKenna (Cotterstown) took a free from which John Fitzgerald (Glenmore) met with hard luck in a splendid attempt. Bill Irish (Glenmore) was responsible for holding up a Dublin effort, but the Metropolitans were not to be denied. A stiff Dublin attack found the Kilkenny custodian, Pat Dalton (Cloneen), all alone. Dublin fought their way back from a free, but the honours were with the Kilkenny line of defence after a thrilling struggle. Norris and Reilly were prominent in a Dublin return, but the Kilkenny backs were not to be beaten, and an over resulted. Kilkenny were lasting the hot pace well. They again broke away, and a well placed centre by Jimmy Hanrahan (Glenmore) was mis-judge by Paddy Cody (Glenmore). At the other end P. McDonnell sent wide. A return by Dublin found the Kilkenny backs at their best. Eventually, P. McDonnell got in a great shot which Pat Dalton (Knocktopher) saved amidst cheers. Very good play marked the closing stages of the first half, the interval finding Kilkenny leading by 2 points to 1 point.
Second Half
With a breeze in their favour Dublin got away on the play resuming. P. McDonnel (sic) sent it wide. A return was beaten off, and Kilkenny pressed. Jimmy Hanrahan (Glenmore) sent it in for the Dublin backs to clear in capital style. Dublin were now having the better of the play. A free aided Dublin in a forward movement, which ended in P. McDonnell receiving from O’Reilly and kicking a fine overhead point. With the scores level there was keen enthusiasm, both sides battling hard for the lead. A great Dublin on rush was checked by the Kilkenny backs, who were gamely bearing the brunt of the struggle. The Dublin forwards were not doing too well, and a succession of wides were registered before Dalton once more proved to be the men in the gap, by brining off a magnificent save. When Kilkenny looked like it was getting away a foul spoiled the play. The ensuring Dublin attack, which was prolonged, met with a splendid resistance.

Dublin got three over before P. McDonald sent in a point which gave them the lead. Dublin renewed the offensive, and a minor followed for Donovan, who was always conspicuous. Nothing daunted, Kilkenny got away, and engaged in a brief attack, which was repulsed, Dublin again invading to go over. Despite the great efforts of the Kilkenny backs, Donovan and P. McDonnell were responsible for two further points. Kilkenny broke through, and looked like scoring until J. McKenna (Cotterstown) sent over. A free well placed by Jimmy Hanrahan (Glenmore) was sent wide of the Dublin posts by John Fitzgerald (Glenmore). Dublin again showed supremacy, and after twice crossing the Kilkenny end of the field Shanahan placed for P. McDonald who from a low ground shot, sent in an “unsavable goal.” In a Dublin return John Synott drove wide. Dublin continued to have the best of matters, and Robbins from far out kicked a point which left Dublin winning well at the end. The final score was Dublin 1-7; Kilkenny 0-2.
Often it gives a more balanced account to read what a newspaper in the opposing team’s area reported on a match, however it appears that the Munster Express was just a shorter version of the earlier article in The Irish Independent (Mon. 6 Nov. 1922, p. 9). The Irish Independent noted that for the first half hour “it was a really good game, the splendid stand made by the visitors coming as something of a surprise.” The pace was fast and Kilkenny engaged in strong, dashing tactics which resulted n their leading at half time. While their backs show up splendidly all through there were times when their forwards could have done better with the chances that came their way. Pat Dalton, of Knocktopher, acquitted himself with credit and played with the Kilkenny team which beat Meath in the Leinster final 7 years previously.
Dublin played an evenly balanced game and “though well tried in the opening half showed marked superiority in the closing stages.” The closing half was altogether in favour of the home team, but still the play continued interesting to the end “the Kilkenny men were always fighting pluckily. Kilkenny were minus the services of two of their original selection: one of the Brennans and Wattie Lawler, of Cloneen who was traveling by motor car failed to reach the city.
FIGURES OF THE MATCH
First Half Frees 50’s Wides Goals Points
Kilkenny 3 1 2 0 2
Dublin 4 0 3 0 1
Second Half
Kilkenny 3 0 2 0 0
Dublin 7 0 14 1 6
Dublin Team—P. Carey (Capt); J. McDonnell (goal); W. Robbins; J. Carey; Joe Synott; John Synott; J. Norris; J. Reilly (O’Toole’s); F. Burke; T. Pierce (Collegians); Joe Joyce (Parnells); W. Donovan (Kickhams); M. Shanahan; C. McDonnell (St. Mary’s) and sub A. Gibbons (O’Toole’s) who replaced Joe Synott who was injured in the first half.
Kilkenny Team—M. Cody (Capt); A. Heffernan; P. Hartley; J. Phelan; W. Irish; P. Cody; J. Hanrahan; M. Connolly; J. Fitzgerald (Glenmore); P. Dalton (goal) (Knocktopher), A. Brennan; P. Hughes; T. Brennan (Cloneen); J. McKenna; W. Landy (Cotterstown).
Kilkenny Team (from Kilkenny People, Fri. 22 Oct. 1976, p. 10) Martin Cody (Captain), Andy Heffernan, Pat Hartley, Jim Phelan, Bill Irish, John Fitzgerald, Mick Connolly, Paddy Cody, Jimmy Hanrahan (Glenmore); Pat Dalton, goal (Knocktopher), Tom Brennan, Frank Hughes, Andy Brennan (Cloneen), J. McKenna and Wattie Landy (Cotterstown).
A week later, the Kilkenny Senior Football team members were to play each other on Sunday the 12th of November 1922, when old rivals Glenmore and Cloneen were scheduled to play at St. James Park, Kilkenny for the Kilkenny senior Football County Championship (Munster Express, Sat. 11 Nov. 1922, p. 6). After winning the Leinster Senior Football Championship, Dublin went on to become the All-Ireland Senior Football Champions (Kilkenny People, Fri. 22 Oct. 1976, p. 10) beating the Connaght Champions, Galway.
Please send any corrections, further information, or photos to glenmore.history@gmail.com.
For previous articles on Glenmore football see, [1] our post of 24 April 2022;
[2] “The Roaring Twenties: Glenmore’s Championship 1920 Senior Football Match Played in Feb. 1922,”
published on 20 Febuary 2022;
[3] “Glenmore Football During the Roaring Twenties: 1920-1921,” published on 9 August 2021;
[4] “Kilkenny Gaelic Football Team: USA Champions 1920,” published on 29 April 2021;
[5] “Long Road to VIctory: Glenmore 1916 Senior Football Co. Kilkenny Champions,” published on 7 February 2021;
[6] “Michael J. Hanrahan (1888-1968): Early Twentieth Century Gaelic Football on Both Sides of the Atlantic,” published on 28 November 2020;
[7] “The Tenacious Glenmore 1915 Football Team: Co. Kilkenny Senior Football Champions,” published on 11 October 2020;
[8] “The Glenmore Football Club: The Trials and Tragedies of the 1906 Co. Kilkenny Gaelic Football Champions,” published on 30 August 2020.
Dr. Kathleen Moore Walsh
Childhood Games Played in Glenmore in 1938

National Folklore Commission
Between 1937 and 1939, 5000 primary schools in Ireland participated in recording local information for the National Folklore Commission. Over 288,000 pages were created by students in exercise books. Students in all 26 counties were asked to collect information ranging from oral history, topographical information, folklore, legends, riddles, pastimes, games, trades and crafts by interviewing their parents, grandparents and neighbours.
From 15 Nov. 1937 to 7 Dec. 1938 a dozen students in the Ballyfacey, Glenmore National School, under teacher Domhnall Mac Cárthaigh, participated in the School Collection. The Ballyfacey Glenmore School Collection (Vol. 845, pp 484-596) is available on line and may be found in Roll Number 9880.) For our previous post regarding this collection see our post of 27 June 2022.
Topic: Games I Play
Today, we are going to feature the topic entitled “Games I Play.” Although it is always interesting to read about the type of childhood games our grandparents or great-grandparents played before television and computers this material is more important because it was written by the children themselves and preserved. Julian Smith has noted that archival documents pertaining to children are selective, generally written by adults with their own biases towards children especially their own children.
The archaeology of childhood is a relatively new field that questions assumptions made concerning our past. (Julian Smith, “Child’s Play,” 63(3) Archaeology (2010) p. 40-45). More generally, the importance of play for children has been recognised as key to developing skills for getting along with peers, learning rules, learning sanctions for breaking rules, developing memory skills such as with the recitation of rhymes, developing creativity, resourcefulness and problem solving as well as providing physical activity for motor skills etc.
The Nine Children
There were 9 children who recorded games these children included: Patrick Phelan, of Ballywairy, Glenmore, p. 526-528 (4 April 1938); Mary Aylward, of Ballyfacey Lower, Glenmore, p. 529-530 (20 July 1938); Mary Phelan, Ballywairy, Glenmore, p. 531-532, (26 July 1938); Peggy Aylward, of Ballyfacey Lower, Glenmore, p. 532-533 (25 July 1938); Michael Fitzgerald, of Moulerstown, Glenmore, p. 533-534 (26 July 1938); William Roche, of Haggard, Glenmore, p. 535-536 (undated); Eddie O’Connor, of Ballyfacey Lower, Glenmore, p. 536-537 (20 July 1938); Peter O’Connor, of Ballyfacey Lower, Glenmore, p. 537-538 (17 July 1938); Joseph Synnott of Weatherstown, Glenmore, p. 538-539 (18 July 1938); and James Culleton of Kilbride, Glenmore, p. 540 (undated).
The Games
The games with explanations are listed in alphabetical order first and game mentioned without explanations are listed thereafter with the rhymes recorded. Given the popularity of Gaelic football in Glenmore in the 1920’s it is surprising that none of the children included football or hurling in their list of games. Most of the games listed were played with stones and sticks although one game did mention the use of a ball and another the use of dice. Original wording is employed and editorial notes or comments are in square brackets [ ].
All the Robbers Going Through—”All the robbers going through is played by sending two away and [these] decide upon two things. All the rest answer what they would like and go behind whoever [of the two] had that and then pull against the others.2 [Sounds like a human tug of war.]
Blind Man’s Bluff—”Blind man’s bluff can be played by any number. One person is blindfolded and tries to catch the others while in that way.”
Carry the Lady to London—[a short description appears to be that two children grasp each other’s hands and a third child sits on their hands and is carried.]
Colours—Colours are played by taking a colour and another person would try and guess it.
Den—”Den is a very common game with me and some other boys. This is the way played. One remains inside a certain space while the others is going away a distance from him. Then he runs after the rest trying to catch them. If they are able to get into that space they will win. This is played out in the open air.”
Donkey—“Donkey is a game played by two or more. It is played by throwing a ball from one to another and whoever lets the ball fall as many times as there are letters in the word donkey he is a donkey and he is laughed at and mocked.”
Duck—”Duck can be played by any number of persons. It is played by putting a small stone on top of a large one while each person in turn tries to knock off the small stone by throwing another stone at it.”
Four Corner Fool—Played by 5 children. “one stands in the centre of a rectangle formed by four stones with four persons standing at each stone. The four persons leap from stone to stone exchanging places while the person in the centre watches his chance to get a place at one of the stones and the person who loses his place has to go in the centre and do likewise.”
A variation was also played—Three Corner Fool—”A boy is put in each of three corners of a room and another boy in the middle. The boy in the middle is known as the fool. Those in the corners must change from one corner to another and if the boy in the middle can get in to one the corners a different boy is the fool.” [It was not explained how this might be played in a room with four corners.]
Heck-a-peck is standing on one leg and kicking a stone on a certain line.
Hide & Seek—”Hide and seek is played by two or more persons. One goes and hides and the other searches for him until he finds him.”
Hide the Button—”Hide the button is played by putting a button in one of your hands and somebody else would say ‘Pe Po Paddy pin, open the door and let me in, if I am a fairy king I shall surely win.’” Another child recited this verse for this game, “cut a sin a ma ma ma ma ma.”
Another child explained, “Cunnie sé the má má má” or hide the button, in which a button is hidden by one of them in one of the children’s hand and whichever of them is guessing guesses wrongly he will get a slap on the hand and the person who guesses rightly he or she will be left hide it and the person that hid it before will have to guess.”
Katty—Katty or Kattie is played by making a circle and putting a stone in the centre and throwing up the kattie and getting three strokes off it. It was played by girls with a short piece of stick pointed at both ends.
Another child provided more detail, “First I would make a ring and put a stone in the middle. Then I would bat and another person would pelt up the kattie to the ring and I would get three hits off it and if it did not go more than two jumps away I would be out. When the kattie is pelted up and if it went into the ring I could not get any hit off of it. When it is half ways in on the line two hits can be got off it. When the kattie goes a good distance away four or six jumps can be given. No uneven number can be given.”

Marbles—Marbles is a game among boys. “Playing marbles is a common game also. We make three holes in the ground and try and get the marbles into them three times up and down. When we have it in that many times we lodge the marble. Then we try and hit each other and who ever will do that will win.”
Playing on Rye Grass—[used perineal rye grass]You say “Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Sailor, rich man, poor man, pothecary, weaver” and whatever you end on you will be married to that type of person. This was played “by knocking off the clumps off the grass” and when all the clumps were removed the category of husband was selected.
Another version–High boots, Low boot’s, Brogues, Slippers. Is a game played with the same kind of a plant to find out what kind of shoes you will be getting.”
Prisoner—”Another game we play is trying to bring one another to jail. One pack would be guards and another prisoners. The guards try to bring the prisoners to jail for doing such a thing.”
Púcín—Púcín is a game played by children. One of the children is blindfolded and he is to catch some one of the others in the kitchen.
Ring-a-ring-a-rosies—”is played by catching hands and saying ‘a ring a ring a rosies, pockets full of posies, chainies on the ditches, picking sally switches, asha asha we all fall down.’”
Rounders—”Rounders is played by three or more persons. One has a bat defending wickets against another who throws a ball intending to strike the wickets, but the other strikes the ball with the bat and sends it off. He then runs in a circle marked out by the players and tries to make as many runs as possible before a third person reaches the ball.”
See-saw—”is a very exciting game. The way to play it is as follows: A log of timber is got and put across a ditch or a horrizontal circular beam of timber. When this is completed a boy sits on one end of the log and another boy on the other end and they weigh each other up and down.”
Skipping—Skipping is played by turning a rope and jumping.
Skittles—Skittles is a game that is played by boys. Five small sticks are used and three big ones called pelters.
Snakes & Ladders—Snakes and ladders is played by putting a cube [dice]into a box and shaking and if you are at the mouth of a snake you go down to the foot of it. [Believe this was a board game which is similar to the modern version.]
Snap Apple—Snap apple is a game played by girls on November Eve by snapping with your mouth at an apple tied from a cord from the ceiling.
Spy—”Spy is played by two. One goes behind a wall or fence and the other comes from a certain place and takes a quick look at the person behind the wall or fence. He then runs back and the other chases him intending to catch him before he reaches the place where he came from.”
Three legged race is run by two people together with two of their legs tied.
Other Games
Games listed with no instructions of how they were played include: Boxes; Ludo; I Bought a Horse Today Sir; Going to the Cinema; Drafts/Draughts; Rings; Coising; Goose; and Fox & Goose.
Rhymes Recorded
Roger is dead in his lonely grave, they planted an apple tree over his head, the apples got ripe and they all fell off, There came an old woman picking them up. Roger got up and he gave her a kick. This was played by “one would be picking something and the other would give him a kick.”
Mulberry bush–the verse is said when playing it is this “here we go round the Mulberry bush, the Mulberry bush, the Mulberry bush, here we go round the Mulberry bush, on a cold and frosty morning.”
Another game is played by turning a burning stick around quickly, and these words are said “Robin robin your life is lark, if you lay in my fist I will saddle your back, sticks and stones and dead mens’ bones, and around goes robin lark.” Other local rhymes can be found in our blog post of 11 Jan. 2020.
If there are any corrections or additional information please send it to glenmore.history@gmail.com. For a brief description of games played at Glenmore funerals see our post of 8 Dec. 2019.
The featured painting of the boys clasping hands was from an old postcard. The artist was John H. Bufford (1810-1870) and is by courtesy of the ARTSTOR on-line library available at https://library.artstor.org/public/28063331 (accessed 27 Nov. 2022).
The black and white photo of boys playing marbles (1943) is from Julian Smith’s article, “Child’s Play,” 63(3) Archaeology (2010) p. 44.
Dr. Kathleen Moore Walsh
BALLINCLARE, GLENMORE (1961)

Today, we are going to feature information that Danny Dowling recorded regarding the residents of the townland of Ballinclare, Glenmore, around 1961. The Irish for this townland, according to Kelly’s, Place Names of County Kilkenny (1969, p. 111), Baile an chlair translates to place of the plank or wooden bridge. The townland is comprised of 326 acres. Ballinclare is one of the shortest entries in Kelly’s book.
In the 1829 Tithe Applotment Books, Mr. David O’Neill Power, Esq. was the landlord of townland of Ballinclare. Additionally, he owned Ballyhobuck, Ballinamona, Gaulstown, and Ballinlammy. The tenants of the townland of Ballinclare included: Philip Aylward (69 acres); John Walsh (29 acres); and Martin Doherty; Patrick Kennedy; Richard Phelan; Philip Walsh (the last 4 tenants together had 71 acres).
Danny Dowling in 1961 recorded 3 families or households in Ballinclare. Birthdates or birth years are provided for some of the older residents gleaned from available public records. For some time after drafting his notebook, Danny recorded the dates of death or simply recorded that a resident had died or left the townland. No death notations are recorded for this townland. The recorded information reveals that in 1961, 21 people resided in Ballinclare with the population comprised of 9 males and 12 females. The Kennedy family was the largest family with 11 family members in the household. There were no households where it was recorded that a single person lived alone.
Recorded Residents
Males= 9
Females=12
Eldest Recorded Resident = The oldest Ballinclare resident was Mary Aylward née Irish (1882-1969). Mary was 79 years old in 1961. She was the widow of Michael Aylward and they had a large family. Mary’s obituary is located on our Family “A” Surname page.
Recorded Work
Farmer = 3 (3 males)
Farm Labourer/Worker= 2 (2 males)
Shorthand/typist = 1 (1 female)
BALLINCLARE RESIDENTS
[1] AYLWARD
Aylward, Richard (c. 1917) Farmer
Aylward, Mary, wife
Aylward, Thomas, nephew, farm worker
Aylward, Mary (28 Feb. 1882) mother
[2] BARRON
Barron, Stephen (5 Feb. 1909—6 Jan. 1977) Farmer
Barron, Margaret (10 April 1906—29 April 1990) wife
Hartley, Kathleen, daughter, shorthand/typist
Barron, Thomas, son
Barron, Mary, daughter
Hartley, John, son-in-law, assisting farm
[3] KENNEDY
Kennedy, John (1 March 1910) Farmer
Kennedy, Bridget (13 Aug. 1911) wife
Kennedy, Josie, daughter
Kennedy, Martin, son
Kennedy, Margaret, daughter
Kennedy, Patrick, son
Kennedy, Sean, son
Kennedy, Bridget, daughter
Kennedy, Katie, sister
Kennedy, Anne, daughter
Kennedy, Annie (1 Nov. 1907) sister
The featured photo above was published in the Munster Express (3 Nov. 1961, p. 15) and shows a group of Glenmore farmers, at the Kilkenny farmer’s protest. The farmers were protesting against the raising of rates.
Please send any additional information, corrections or photos to glenmore.history@gmail.com.
Dr. Kathleen Moore Walsh