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Carrigcloney Castle. Glenmore

On the 23rd of October 1964, Danny Dowling, interviewed and recorded several stories told by “Nicky the Miller” Forristal (1888-1979) of the Mill, Graguenakill, Glenmore. One of the stories of particular interest concerned the Carrigcloney Castle of Glenmore. The following short story is how it was recorded by Danny.

Buried Treasure at Carrigcloney Castle

“Tom Meany a farm labourer who lived in a cabin in Carrigcloney is reported to have got a large hoard of money from the above castle. It appears that a chap from the Co. Carlow who was working in Barry’s of Carrigcloney, dreamt on a number of occasions that there was a hoard of money in a certain spot at the castle. He used to ramble to Meany’s every evening night, and he told him the story of what he had dreamt.”

The two men decided to dig around the castle one night. They went to the spot in the dream and dug, and when they came to flag stone Meany pretended to see a ghost and partly fainted. Both fled and the story goes that as soon as the chap had gone home to bed Meany and his wife went back and got the money. Meany later left the district and took a brick marsh in Gracedieu where he commenced to manufacture bricks. Old Paddy the Weaver (Walsh) of Glenmore Village worked for him in the brickworks there. Meany later bought a public house in Waterford City.”

West side Carrigcloney Castle, June 2021

Although the story does not indicate when the treasure was discovered at the Carrigcloney Castle, a marriage record was located for Thomas Meany (c. 1801-1873) and Bridget Hynes of Carrigcloney. The couple were married on 10 February 1834 at Glenmore. A death record was also located indicating that Thomas Meany, brickmaker, of the Glen, Waterford died on the 4th of July 1873 at the age of 72. His wife Bridget Meany was present at his death.

Tom Meany was dead prior to Nicky the Miller’s birth. This story is similar to the pot of gold that was allegedly hidden in Cappa, Glenmore with a Carlow man dreaming about its location. See our 2020 post Glenmore Gold. Interestingly Barrys are still in Carrigcloney and Hoynes originally from Carrigcloney are still found in Glenmore. We were not able to find any information that linked Tom Meany to ownership of the brick yard or a pub in Waterford.

The Castle/Tower Houses of Glenmore

Generally, speaking the remnants of the building referred to as Carrigcloney Castle is more in keeping with a medieval tower house rather than a castle. A tower house was usually the fortified home of a wealthy landowner and these occupants considered their fortified residence a castle. A tower house was made of stone and usually was four or more stories in height. Originally tower houses were built by the Normans, but some Gaelic families also began to build them.

Tower Houses were built from about 1400 to 1650. One historian reckoned that there were around 2,900 castles across Ireland, and the majority of these were tower houses. “Tower houses came into existence by the early fifteenth century, when a 1429 statute allowed the counties of the Pale to grant £10 to landowners towards their construction” (Colm Donnelly (1996) “Frowning Ruins: The Tower Houses of Medieval Ireland,” 4 (1) History Ireland is available online. )

Dublin Penny Journal (30 Jan. 1836)

In attempting to locate information regarding the Carrigcloney Castle references to several other castles or tower houses around Glenmore were found. Most of the known castles or tower houses that were located in Glenmore were near the River Barrow. This was primarily due to the fact that the rivers were the earliest highways and inhabitants tended to settle along the rivers. Further up the River Barrow from Glenmore there is an early 19th century drawing of Castle Annaghs and it provides an example of a tower house that was still inhabited.

[1] The Carrigclooney (sic) Castle was destroyed around 1800. It and a hamlet bearing the same name are near the River Barrow, in the townland of Carrigclooney, in the old civil parish of Kilmakevoge.  ( Historic Castles of Kilkenny available online.) Contrary to the information provided on the webpage, Carrigcloney Castle was not totally destroyed. One room of the castle/tower house remains standing today with an impressive vaulted ceiling.

Other Glenmore Castles/Tower Houses

The Historic Castle website list for Glenmore also includes:

[2] Aylwardstown House was built about 1609 in Aylwardstown townland. According to some of Danny’s notes it is believed that the house may be on the site of a previous tower house or have parts of a tower house incorporated into it.

[3] Rochestown Castle once stood in Rochestown townland, in the Civil Parish of Kilcolumb overlooking the River Barrow. It is described as being near the south road of the village.

[4] Forrestalstown Castle which belonged to the Forrestal family once stood in the old civil parish of Ballygurrim. The Forristal family lost their lands under Cromwell and were transplanted to Connaught. This castle was demolished also around 1800.

[5] Mullennahone “sic” Castle once stood in the townland of Mullinahone, in the old civil parish of Kilmakevoge. This castle was “levelled” around 1800. A field called the “Castle field” is described as being a few fields west of the chapel in Glenmore. This is the only known castle/tower house far removed from the River Barrow.

Impact of the 1798 Rebellion?

Vaulted ceiling in Carrigcloney Castle

Nowhere was an explanation provided as to why so many of these castles/tower houses were demolished or destroyed in about 1800. We suspect that the 1798 Rebellion centred predominately in Wexford, on the east side of the River Barrow, may have caused or impacted on the decisions to demolish the Glenmore castles/tower houses. Sometimes taxes caused castles to become derelict. For example, it is said that Blarney Castle and Ross Castles had their roofs removed because of taxes. Carrigcloney Castle currently has a slate roof, but it is not known when it was installed.

To view historical monuments in the area see the National Monuments Service, the Historic Environment Viewer. The Viewer is a free digital service to facilitate access to the National Monument Sites and Monument Record databases available by clicking here. For further reading see, Tadhg O’Keefe, “Halls, ‘Hall-Houses’ and Tower-Houses in Medieval Ireland: Disentangling the Needlessly Entangled” (2013/2014) 27 The Castle Studies Group Journal p. 252 available online via academia.edu.   

Special thanks to Neddy and Eileen Aylward for providing access and information on Carrigcloney Castle. The featured photo above is of Carrigcloney Castle taken in June 2021.

Stone face from Danny Dowling’s collection.

The photo on the left depicts a small stone face that is thought to have been found in Glenmore.

If anyone knows of any other castles or tower houses that were located in Glenmore parish, or has further information or corrections, please email glenmore.history@gmail.com.

Dr. Kathleen Moore Walsh

Glenmore Fishing and Weirs

For generations Glenmore men, and at least one woman, fished the River Barrow. Some of fishermen were also farmers and others were cottagers working on farms when needed part of the year and fishing the remainder of the year. Although the River Barrow is home to several different types of fish and eel, the king of the catch was the salmon. (For a list of the type of fish of the Barrow see, http://riverbarrow.net/fishing.html .) Danny Dowling interviewed and recorded various aspects of local fishing in the 1970’s as fishing declined significantly.

Nicky Forristal, of the Mill, Graiguenakill, Glenmore in June 1977 identified five fishing “pools” on the River Barrow that Glenmore fishermen fished. All of the fishing pools identified had Irish names and were described as follows:

  • Thowshkeen—above Cherry’s Brewery at Ross, mid-river.
  • Ling Voor—off Castle Annaghs. From Stafford’s wharf to turn of Camblin.
  • Lahóge—Between Maid’s Quay and Glenmore Pill.
  • Málya—Between Glenmore Pill and Carrickcloney strand.
  • Corrigalú—On Wexford side almost opposite Tommy Connolly’s, of the river, at Aylwardstown. Below Dunganstown Quay wood of the same name.

Patrick Hennessey, of Hoodsgrove, Rosbercon, in February 1980 identified seven fishing “ponds,” on the Barrow and Nore Rivers. All of the fishing ponds identified by Patrick Hennessy are also in Irish.

  • Ling Voor—in Barrow off Camblin.
  • Ling Beg—in Barrow at bridge of Ross.
  • Thowshtheen—in Barrow at Ross side of railway bridge.
  • Vawnúg—at Barrow mouth. Confluence of Nore and Barrow.
  • Pawl Útha—in Nore under Luke Hennessy’s of Glensensaw.
  • Portloss—in Nore at Ballyneale.
  • Scíordhawns—in Nore under Lambert’s of Newgrove.

Michael Forristal, of Rochestown, Glenmore in 1969 stated that there were 14 fishing boats at the Black Rock, Kearneybay and at one time 40 boats were fishing the river. John Power, of Carrigcloney, Glenmore, in February 1970 identified the fishermen with boats who trawled the Malya around the turn of the twentieth century.

  • Tommy Power of Robinstown (own boat).
  • Jim Scanlan, Glenmore (own boat.)
  • Jimmy Forristel, The Mill (own boat).
  • Pat Kennedy, Duganstown, Co. Wexford (own boat).
  • Patsy Hough, Rochestown (own boat).
  • Jack Forristal, Rochestown (own boat).
  • Micky Foran, Rochestown (own boat).

Salmon was then about 6 d. per lb. Salmon was so plentiful that asses and carts were required to transport it away. The fish were generally sold in Ross. A man named Murphy was identified as a New Ross fish buyer.

However, some boats were owned by people who did not live along the river. Nicky Forristal, of the Mill, Graiguenakill (Nov. 1977) told Danny that Patsy Henneberry (Mártín) of Jamestown, and Bill Roche, of Jamestown, (Main Roche’s father) owned between them a cot which they fished in for at least one season. Patsy Henneberry was going with another crew on this particular season, and he asked Roche, “how will we settle about the cot?” Roche replied “we can do nothing with her except cut her in halves.” No matter what Henneberry suggested, Roche would not agree, so in the end Henneberry, rather than see it cut in halves, left it to Roche.

Nicky Forristal (1888-1979) in his 1977 interview also described to Danny the fish joulter’s cars that he observed as a young man. This horse drawn vehicle with four wheels, had high sides and was used by the fish dealers in Ross, Enniscorthy and Graiguenamanagh. They traveled in convoys of up to 8 or 9 cars by the Mill on their way to Dunmore to collect sea fish. They would leave in the day, pass by the Mill in the evening, stay overnight in Dunmore, and return the next day. He was told that they travelled in a convoy to let some of the drivers sleep for part of the journey and the cars and the fish would be minded by the other drivers.

Turf Cigarette Card Depicting Salmon

Brian Forristal in an interview of Tommy Connolly, of the river, (1907-1987) recorded that Tommy recalled a time when 30 or 40 boats were on the river during the salmon season. Tommy and his crew, in the 1961-1962 season, held the record for the number of salmon caught in one sweep. They were fishing in the “Mallagh” and caught 65 salmon during the one run and on the next they caught another 20 or so. The haul was so heavy it took several crews to help them pull in the net.

Weirs on the Barrow River

An interesting article appeared in the Dublin Penny Journal (30 Jan. 1836, available at https://www.jstor)org/stable/30003343) concerning the fishing of “the famed salmon of the Barrow.” The author a man from New Ross described the salmon fishing as follows: “a net is dropped between two small boats called ‘cots.’ (The author described the cot as a small boat generally built of four or five boards.) Each cot holds two men, one holds the net, while the other ‘conducts the cot with a paddle, shaped like a shovel.’” It was noted by the author that upwards of four hundred individuals earn a comfortable livelihood during the fishing seasons. This livelihood came under threat in 1834 when large Scotch weirs, some nearly a mile in extent, were illegally placed at the mouth of the Waterford harbour. One of these weirs frequently caught five hundred salmon each tide. “Impelled by hunger and despair” the up-river fishermen could not wait for the legal prosecution of the weir owners. Men manned two hundred cots and armed with hatchets and saws they left New Ross one morning cut down the nets of the giant Scotch weirs and returned with the returning tide, exhausted having travelled nearly 50 miles. “The lovers of cheap salmon welcomed their return with three hearty cheers, and made a handsome collection to buy bread and beer to refresh these nautical heroes.”

Although the newspapers of the nineteenth century are full of fishing prosecutions and inquiries there is one article in the Dublin Daily Express of 15 December 1863 that identifies and discusses three weirs in Glenmore parish and the people associated with them sometimes going back to 1800, namely: the Ballyverneen weir; the Carney (sic) Bay weir; and the Rochestown weir. Under an Act of Parliament, the Fisheries Commission was appointed to investigate the rights and titles of parties to fisheries by means of fixed weirs and to decide whether they were an obstruction to navigation.

Ballyverneen Weir

Dr. Joseph P. Mackesy, Esq. was identified as the landlord and Michael Irish was the occupier of the weir who paid rent for it. Robert Brazil measured the weir and advised the Commission that it was 59 yards from the end of the enter ring to the shore. At the outside pole it was in 30 feet of water, and at the upper end of the channel wing there was 24 feet of water at full tide. Pilot William Fortune testified and referred to it as the Pink Rock weir. He stated that the tide sets right into it and said that it was an obstruction to navigation of a vessel when “working up a vessel, coming up with a flood tide.” Daniel Walsh testified that his brother fished the weir in 1801 and he took it after that. Daniel testified that he was about 72 years of age. The nets were cut down by the cot men once since he took the weir. It never happened again. He never knew a gabbard or ship to be tangled in the Ballyverneen weir. Thomas Mullally, Dr. Mackessy’s rent-warner, testified that he had no recollection of being told of any damage being done to the weir by boats. “There is a good flood tide going into the weir.”

The Commission deemed the weir injurious to navigation and the public right of fishing. It ordered the removal of the weir.

Kearneybay Weir

The landlord was Col. Kearney and the occupant was Thomas Murphy. [Update: Danny Dowling stated on 20 July 2020 that Col. Kearney lived near the Carlow border and only resided in Kearneybay for a short time.] The weir was described as a “head weir.” Robin Brazil testified that from the shore to the extreme end of the channel wing of the weir measured 72 yards. At spring high water he found the depth of 27 feet at the end of the channel wing. Gabbards, boats and vessels pass up and down the river by this weir. Michael Barron a boatman testified that in his opinion the weir made navigating the river difficult. James Bolger a boatman trading up and down the river testified that he did not think it was injurious. Thomas Wall, a Kearneybay farmer, testified that the weir had been there as long as he could remember for the past 65 or 66 years. It was fished as a salmon weir during that time and before that it was fished by Andrew Neil and Mark Brine.

Thomas Murphy testified that he was the tenant of the weir for the past 12 years since his father died. He paid £5 rent per year to Col. Kearney the landlord. He had helped fish it for the past 40 years. He stated that to his knowledge Col. Kearney and his ancestors owned the weir for over 200 years. Thomas Murphy stated his father fished it for 45 years as a salmon weir. He never heard of a complaint that it was an obstruction to navigation.  Murphy noted that at high water the breadth of the river was about 300 yards. About 30 or 40 yards of the weir were stripped out at low spring tides. It was a flood weir. There were no complaints made to him about a boat going into the weir, but he admitted it was injured by a vessel going against it about 15 years earlier.

The Commission ruled that no evidence was given to sustain the title and that there was evidence that it was injurious to navigation. It ordered the weir be removed.

The Rochestown Weir

The owner of the weir was identified as Peter Strange, J.P. The occupier was Joseph Hunt. The weir was described as a flood weir. Hunt testified that he held the weir under a lease of 21 years for which he paid 1 shilling per year. His father purchased the lease for 21 years for £80, 12 years earlier leaving 9 years still on the lease. Hunt stated that the weir does not pose an obstruction to navigation. John Crook testified that he had worked the weir for the past 60 years and it was always used for salmon. Myles Dempsey, a boatman for twenty years, testified that he did not think that the weir caused an obstruction to navigation. The newspaper report does not provide further detail and the Commission ultimately decided that the weir should be abated, and it if was not removed after the proper lapse of time (assumed to be the remainder of the lease) it would issue a warrant for its removal.

The featured drawing is from the Dublin Penny Journal (30 Jan. 1836, available at https://www.jstor)org/stable/30003343) and depicts Castle Annaghs which was located on the Barrow River in Kilkenmy between Glenmore and New Ross. In the foreground is a cot and two fishermen.

For further information concerning local fishing, Andrew Doherty’s blog Waterford Harbour Tides & Tales see, for example “Growing Up Amongst Nets,” https://tidesandtales.ie/growing-up-amongst-nets/ .

Dr. Kathleen Moore Walsh