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The “Weaver Walsh” Family of Glenmore Village
Walsh is a common name in the southeast of Ireland. To distinguish the various families in the parish of Glenmore nicknames were used. Often there was no known reason regarding how the nicknames were chosen, however the “Weaver Walsh” got their name from the work or trade of weaving.
Old Jack “the Weaver” Walsh
The “Weaver” Walshes of Glenmore Village all descended from Old Jack “The Weaver” Walsh. Jack was born near Campile, Wexford and as a young man came to Glenmore Village to work as a weaver in Gafney’s “tuck” mill. Sheets and shirts were made in the tuck mill (Interview of Nicky “the Miller” Forristal , on 24 November 1977, DD Notebook 5, p. 18).
After Jack came to Glenmore he married Anty Gill (Interview of Nicky “the Miller” Forristal, on 10 Sept. 1968, DD Notebook 19, p. 21). Anty’s name in the baptismal records for her sons is recorded as Anstice Gall or Gill. Nicky “the Miller” Forristal (1888-1977) told Danny Dowling (1927-2021) that the couple had five children.
(1) Patrick Walsh (bapt. 12 March 1829) was the eldest. Nicky revealed that Paddy married Mary Haberlin, of Rochestown, Glenmore and they had one son, Jim Walsh.
(2) Henry Walsh went to England had no family. In the Glenmore parish records we found that Henry was baptized 11 March 1831.
(3) Anty Walsh died young.
(4) Alice Walsh married, unfortunately “Nicky the Miller” did not reveal the name of her husband.
(5) Mary Walsh married. Again the name of her husband was not revealed or recorded.
Old Jack “the Weaver” Walsh was a great fighting man. He was always cutting blackthorn sticks. He would name his sticks. One was called “Can Jury Square.” Nicky “the Miller” Forristal noted that Old Jack died without a priest and opined that he was a fine man.
Paddy “the Weaver” Walsh (1829-1909)
Nicky “the Miller” Forristal knew Paddy “the Weaver” Walsh of Glenmore. Nicky recalled hearing that either he (Paddy) or his father (Jack) worked on the building of the Haggard Line. This was a Famine relief scheme to build a road to Mullinavat. It was never completed because the funds ran out. It started at the bridges in Ballybrahee and went on through Tom Mullin’s land. Another section came out at Sean Jim’s cottage at the fringe of Bishopsmountain. Workers got 10 d a day with “no grub.” A man and horse with cart got 2/4 per day. “A store of yellow meal was 2/6.” (Interview of Nicky “the Miller” Forristal, on 22 June 1957, DD Notebook 5, p. 2).
Paddy “the Weaver” Walsh married Mary Haberlin on 16 February 1863 at Glenmore. At least two sons were born to the couple. John Walsh was born in 1869, and James Walsh was born in 1870.
Paddy “the Weaver” Walsh was like his father regarded as a fine fighter and also prepared black thorn sticks for his faction. For further information on faction fighting and Paddy “the Weaver” Walsh, see our post of 20 May 2021. Paddy “the Weaver” Walsh died on the 9th of August 1909 at the age of 75 (he was actually 80) from cancer of the sternum. His grandson, Patrick Walsh was present when he died.
James “Jim the Weaver” Walsh (1870-1960?)
We previously published an article regarding Jim Walsh where he was interviewed about his working life. Please see our post of 31 October 2020.
In the article Jim did not discuss his three wives or his children. On 13 November 1895, James Walsh (labourer) married Margaret Brophy (1871-1906) of Robinstown, at Glenmore. His father was Patrick Walsh (labourer) and her father was James Brophy (labourer). Five children were born to this marriage.
[1] Paddy Walsh—has a registered birth date of 12 April 1896. However, the Glenmore parish records reveal he was baptised the 25th of December 1895. According to Danny Dowling’s notes Paddy Walsh “went away a young man in the army. He never came back.”
[2] Stasia—Anastatia Walsh was baptized 24 October 1897. According to Danny Dowling’s notes she married a man by the name of O’Neill in Belmount.
[3] John Walsh was born the 23rd of December 1899.
[4] Mary Walsh was born the 1st of January 1902. According to Danny Dowling’s notes Mary went to Dublin and was living in Bray.
[5] Jim “the Duck” Walsh was born 7 March 1904 [For Danny Dowling’s notes on “the Duck” see below].
Traínín Cutting
Maggie Walsh née Brophy used to cut and harvest traíníns. It was seasonal work for women to supplement their household income. Traínín is a type of long grass growing in fields. It has a small yellowish head with small pointed seeds. The women cut the traínín with a hook. The women then separated the seed from the stalk by hand. There was a market for the seed in Waterford (Interview of Nicky “the Miller” Forristal, on 20 Feb. 1961, DD Notebook 27A, p. 10).
The 1901 Census
The 1901 Census for Graiguenakill, Glenmore, is interesting because it shows the impact the building of the railway was having in Glenmore.
Patrick Walsh, aged 67, widower, farm labourer;
James Walsh, son aged 30, general labourer;
Margaret Walsh, daughter-in-law, aged 30;
Patrick Walsh, aged 5 grandson;
Anastatia Walsh, aged 3; and
John Walsh, aged 1.
Six Lodgers were also in the cottage along with the growing family:
Joseph Davis aged 43, railway navvy, not married;
Patrick Murphy, aged 21, railway navvy, not married;
Patrick Murphy, aged 24, railway navvy, not married;
John Bradley, aged 20, railway navvy, not married;
Jermiah Denehy, aged 43, railway navvy, not married; and
Patrick Wall, aged 44, married, railway navvy.
Margaret Walsh died 24 Deceber 1906, aged 35 of TB, her brother Peter Brophy, of Mullinavat was present at her death.
The 1911 Census provides that James Walsh was the head of the family, aged 37, widower, and four of his children were at home. His eldest son, Paddy Walsh was not in the household in 1911 and may have already joined the army.
James “Jim the Duck” Walsh (b. 1904) of Glenmore Village
According to Danny’s notes Jim went away a young man. He was called “the Duck”. He was the last of “the first clutch” of James.
When “the Duck” was young he used to eat all the ripe gooseberries in Fr. Bergin’s garden. One day Fr. Bergin caught him under the school and said, “Don’t go anymore to the gooseberries, and if you do I’ll turn you into a goat.”
“Well, if you do,” said the Duck, “I’ll eat your cabbage.”
The Duck left Glenmore at a young age returned “an old man.” The Duck lived in a tent on the hill over the Village. He stayed a summer in the 1950’s. Obviously the Duck was not an old man in the 1950’s.
Second Marriage
Jim “the Weaver” Walsh married his second wife Katie Walker, of Irishtown, New Ross. They were married at New Ross on 20 February 1912. Kate was 30 and a spinster. Her father was James Walker (labourer). Jim and Katie had four children. (1) Margaret Walsh (b. 2 January 1919); (2) Alice Walsh (went to Bray to her half sister Mary Walsh (b. 1902); (3) Michael Walsh (b. 5 November 1917); (4) Tom Walsh (b. 8 May 1914). Tom went to Scotland where he lived and died.
After ten years of marriage and four children, Katie Walsh, née Walker died a young woman and the children were all sent away to different homes according to Danny’s notes. The death register provides that Katie Walsh née Walker died on the 8th of July 1922 at the age of 41. The widower, Jim Walsh, was present at her death due to TB. She suffered with the disease for two years before her death.
Third Marriage
According to Danny Dowling’s notes Jim “the Weaver” Walsh married Mary Anne Slattery (1886-1962) a native of Wexford. Jim “the Weaver” Walsh married Mary Anne Slattery on the 11th of October 1922 at Glenmore, just three months after his second wife died. Mary Anne was working and living in Forristalstown, Glenmore as a servant. Her father was listed as Walter Slattery (sailor).
Very little is known about Mary Anne Walsh née Slattery Walsh, however in his list of residents in 1961, Danny recorded Mary Ann Walsh (4 Jan. 1886-16 July 1962). Her husband, Jim “the Weaver” Walsh is not on Danny’s list, and it is presumed he was dead. There was apparently a child from Jim “the Weaver’s” third marriage. In 1961, Danny recorded that Walter Walsh (b. 1933) was living with his mother Mary Ann. Walter Walsh worked at Stafford’s and later moved to New Ross.
Please send any corrections, additional information or photos to glenmore.history@gmail.com .
Dr. Kathleen Moore Walsh
There is no way of knowing what type of loom Old Jack “the Weaver” Walsh used in Gaffney’s Mill. The featured drawing above is the Thomas’s fancy loom, Lewiston which was used in the 19th century. The Miriam and Ira D. Wallach Division of Art, Prints and Photographs: Photography Collection, The New York Public Library. “Thomas’s fancy loom, Lewiston.” New York Public Library Digital Collections. Accessed May 19, 2025. https://digitalcollections.nypl.org/items/627ee880-c53e-012f-94a7-58d385a7bc34
A Glenmore Landlord: Francis Harvey Devereux, Esq. (1819-1860) of Ringville House [Update]
After our recent post regarding landlord John L. Conn (1812-1893) one reader queried Francis Harvey Devereux. A quick check revealed that Francis H. Devereux lived in Ringville House from 1853 until his death in 1860 (“Kilkenny History, Misc. Houses”).
Land sales advertised at the time of his death provides that in addition to 70 acres at Ringville he was the landlord of Carrignurra, Slieverue and part of Davidstown, Glenmore. This landlord was unusual in that he was a barrister and a Roman Catholic. Additionally, he publicly and financially supported a tenant’s case before a Committee of the House of Commons.
Parents of Francis H. Devereux
Francis Harvey Devereux was baptized on 5 January 1819 at St. Mary’s of Kilkenny City. He was the eldest son of Harvey Devereux (1790-1847) and his wife, Margaret née Smithwick (1798-?). His godfather was Sir William Mavrice.
His father, Harvey Devereux, was baptised on 16 June 1790 at St. Mary’s of Kilkenny City. Harvey Devereux’s parents were Frank Devereaux (sic) and his wife Eleanor Reade.
His mother, Margaret Smithwick, was baptised 21 March 1798 at St. Mary’s, Kilkenny City the daughter of John Smithwick (1763-1842) and his wife, Catherine Butler (1762-1865?).
Siblings of Francis H. Devereux
Harvey Devereux and his wife Margaret Smithwick had at least 7 children comprised of at least one son and six daughters.
(1) Francis Devereux (1819)
(2) Cathrine Devereux (1820)
(3) Lettitia Devereux (1821) married John Bagnall, Esq. of York St., Dublin, a Solicitor in 1840. (Kilkenny Journal & Leinster Commercial Literary Advertiser (Wed. 22 April 1840, p. 3).
(4) Margaret Devereux (1823) at Kilkenny married in 1851, James Edmond Howlet, eldest son of Doctor Howlett, of New Ross (Dublin Weekly Nation, Sat. 4 Oct. 1851, p. 14).
(5) Mary Catherine Devereux (1828) died on the 8th of June 1840. (Freeman’s Journal, Thurs. 11 June 1840, p. 2).
(6) Marian “Mary Anne” Devereux (1829) died the 25th of April 1835 of scarletina, aged 6. (Kilkenny Journal & Leinster Commercial & Literary Advertiser, Wed. 29 April 1835, p. 3).
(7) Mary Frances Devereux (1831). “Frances” the youngest daughter of Harvey Devereux died aged 5 (Waterford Chronicle, Sat. 18 April 1835 p. 7).
It isn’t clear if Catherine was known as Ellen or if there was another sister. In any event, Ellen Devereux married Bernard William Delany in 1848. “On the 2nd instant [May] in Kilkenny, by the Right Rev. Doctor Walshe, Catholic Bishop of Ossory, Bernard William Delaney, Esq. of Cools, County Westmeath, eldest son of William Delaney, Esq. of Durrow, to Ellen, daughter of the late Harvey Devereux, Esq. of Kilkenny”(Freeman’s Journal, Thurs. 4 May 1848, p. 4).
Harvey Devereux was a solicitor and the family lived on Patrick Street in Kilkenny City (Dublin Evening Post, Sat. 1 Oct. 1825, p. 2). Harvey Devereux was a sub-Sheriff of Kilkenny then circa 1822 he became the Secretary to the Kilkenny Grand Jury. He held this post until his death on the 24th of February in 1847 at Kilkenny (Weekly Freeman’s Journal, Sat. 6 March 1847, p. 8). While Francis Harvey was a child his father joined with others, including the Marquis of Ormond, and placed land deeds in the names of their sons.
Francis Harvey Devereux, Barrister-at-Law
The Dublin Morning Register (Mon. 21 May 1841, p. 3) listed ten men that were called to the Bar. “Francis Harvey Devereux, eldest son of Harvey Devereux, of the City of Kilkenny, Esq.” was one of the ten. The newspaper marked each of the ten new barristers who were Roman Catholics. Francis Harvey Devereux was one of the three men identified as Roman Catholic by the newspaper. He was the only person listed from Kilkenny.
In early 1845 it was publicly announced that the Kilkenny Junction Railway was being formed with the Marquis of Ormond as the Chairman. The standing counsel were John Fleming, Esq. Lincoln’s Inn, London. Mathew O’Donnell and Francis Devereux, Esqrs, Dublin and Kilkenny (Gore’s Liverpool General Advertiser, Thurs. 9 January 1845, p. 3).
In 1847, after the death of his father Francis Harvey Devereux applied for his late father’s job as Secretary to the Grand Jury. The following article appeared in the Kilkenny Journal & Leinster Commercial & Literary Advertiser (Wed. 3 March 1847, p. 2).
“Francis Devereux, Esq.—This gentleman has addressed the Grand Jury as candidate for the office of Secretary to that body, now vacant by the death of his father, who for twenty-five years held that office, and discharged its duties very creditably and correctly. Mr. Devereux’s excellent character, and his familiar acquaintance with the onerous duties of Secretary to the Grand Jury, will, we trust, secure for him his election.” It does not appear that he was successful.
In 1849, Francis Harvey Devereux married his brother-in-law’s sister. The newspapers reported that Francis Harvey Devereux, Esq. of Kilkenny, barrister-at-law, married Fanny Mary, daughter of William Delaney, Esq., JP of Durrow, Queen’s County. The Durrow, Co. Laois, records reveal that Francis Devereux married Frances Delaney (c. 1820-1889) on 9 October 1849 (Limerick Reporter, Tues. 16 Oct. 1849, p. 3).
Ringville House
Lady Esmonde of Ringville House was properly known as Dame Letitia Esmond (c. 1781-1851). She was locally revered for helping the poor and establishing and supporting a school at Ringville “for poor children in the immediate neighbourhood of her residence.” In addition to leaving money to build the Catholic Cathedral in Kilkenny she also left £500 for Masses for the repose of souls including Harvey Devereux, late of Kilkenny City” (Dublin Evening Packet & Correspondent, Thurs. 22 Jan. 1852, p. 3).
See our post of 7 October 2023 which explains that Lady Esmonde’s uncle, Mr. Devereux purchased Ringville from Edmond Forristal. It is assumed that Harvey Devereux was a cousin to Lady Esmonde.
Update of 18 May 2025–In October 1798 “a shocking murder was committed within a few miles of Waterford by an armed bandit, who came to the house of Mr. Devereux, of Ringville, first shot him, and then plundered the house of £600. The circumstances are as follows: After having placed sentinels at the door, the murderers got upstairs, unheard to Mr. Devereux’s room, and demanded his arms; which he having twice refused to give them, two shots were fired through his door, one of instantaneously killed him” (Stamford Mercury, Fri. 2 Nov. 1798, p. 2). “The perpetrator’s of the murder of Nicholas Devereux, Esq. of Ringville, are known” and a strict search is being made for them (Freeman’s Journal, Thurs. 1 Nov. 1798, p. 3).
By 1853, Francis Harvey Devereux was residing in Ringville House. From the description provided in advertisements in 1860 it was a fine house with 9 bedrooms and 3 sitting rooms situated on 70 arable acres. Soon Francis Harvey Devereux was a local magistrate, grand juror and a member of the Board of Guardians. Within a few years he was elected chair of the Waterford Board of Guardians.
From newspapers accounts Francis Harvey Devereux appeared to enjoy his country estate and entered some of his stock in local agricultural shows. He also became a member of the Kilkenny & Southeast of Ireland Archaelogical Society. His neighbours John L. Conn of Mount Ida and Peter Strange, Esq. of Aylwardstown House were also members. (“Back Matter.” The Journal of the Kilkenny and South-East of Ireland Archaeological Society 2, no. 2 (1859). http://www.jstor.org/stable/25502578.)
Perhaps the most surprising information located concerns Francis Harvey Devereux’s support for a tenant’s case before a committee of the House of Commons. Not only did he provide a £5 subscription to help fund the tenant’s case he wrote a letter of support and provided legal analysis of how a proposed piece of legislation would gravely injure tenants in Ireland and Scotland (Freeman’s Journal, Fri. 4 March 1853, p. 3).
Rise & Demise of Francis Harvey Devereux
Mr. Christmas of the Waterford Board of Guardians, in 1856, “proposed that Francis Harvey Devereux, a gentleman who had filled the office of Chairman during the last year with great ability and zeal, be re-elected to fill that honourable and onerous position during the ensuing one.” He was unanimously elected (Waterford Mail, Sat. 29 March 1856, p. 2).
A year later Francis Harvey Devereux and his wife had their daughter Elizabeth Devereux baptized at St. Mary’s of Kilkenny on 18 February 1857. This is the only baptismal record we could find for a child of the couple.
In the General Election of 1857 Francis Harvey Devereux ran for the Kilkenny City seat. He lost by 41 votes to Michael Sullivan the Independent Irish candidate.
In early 1858, it was announced that “Francis Harvey Devereux, Esq., of Ringville, has, in consequence of ill health, withdrawn from the Chairmanship of the Waterford Board of Guardians (Kilkenny Journal & Leinster Commercial & Literary Advertiser, Wed. 3 March 1858, p. 2).
On April 12, 1860 “in his forty-first year, Francis Harvey Devereux, Esq., J.P., of Ringville, County Kilkenny, a gentleman much and deservedly esteemed as a magistrate and grand juror, chairman of Waterford union, a director of the Waterford and Kilkenny Railway company, or in the capacity of a private gentleman, and in the family circle. The funeral procession from the residence of his brother-in-law, Bernard W. Delany, Esq., Castlewood, for the family burying place at Thomastown, was largely attended on Monday last by all classes of the community. R.I.P. (Waterford News & Star, Fri. 20 April 1860, p. 2).
Sale of Land Interests
Shortly before the death of Francis Harvey Devereux his interest in various lands were sold. In County Tipperary, for example, two lots were sold on the 16th of March.
LOT 1—Part of the lands of Currilough called Stonepark, containing 18, 2r, 27 p, Irish measure, and producing a net annual rent of £21 5s 10d, and of an estimated value of £43 11s 6d. and Lot 2—Other part of the land of Currilogue containing 32a, 1r, 28 p, Irish measure, and producing a net annual rent of £46 10s 2d. (Clonmel Chronicle, Wed. 15 Feb. 1860).
Carrignurra, Slieverue & Part of Davidstown, Glenmore
The Waterford News & Star (Fri. 8 June 1860, p. 3) reported that the lands of Carriganurra in the Estate of Francis H. Devereux, held in fee simple, containing 180 acres with a net rent of £180 19s sold to Mr. Cherry, in trust, for £4,750. A few days later it was revealed that the “townland of Carrignurra, situated in the Barony of Ida and county Kilkenny, the estate of the late Francis H. Devereux, J.P., and containing nearly four hundred acres … sold, in the Landed Estates Court, to John L. Comes )(sic) [Conn] Esq. of Mount Ida, in said county, to whose property it is contiguous, for the sum of £4,750” (Tipperary Free Press, Tues. 12 June 1860, p. 4).
After the sale to Conn the Kilkenny Moderator (Wed. 27 June 1860, p. 1) published a notice “that the Schedule of Incumbrances affecting the lands of Cariganurra, otherwise Carrignora, otherwise Cariganoroe, otherwise Davidstown, situate in the Barony of Ida, and County of Kilkenny, formerly the estate of Francis Harvey Devereux, is lodged with the Clerk of the Records of this Court, and any person having any claim not therein inserted, or objecting thereto, either on account of the amount or the priority of any charge therein reported to him or any other person, or for any other reason, is required to lodge an objection thereto, stating the particulars of his demand, and duly verified, with the said Clerk, on or before the 14th day of July, at 11 o’clock before the Honourable Judge Dobbs, at his Court in Dublin, when instructions will be given for the final settlement of the Schedule…”
It is not clear what encumbrances were associated with the former land of Francis Harvey Devereux other than what he may have agreed with tenants since he owned the land in fee simple.
Auction at Ringville
Within six months of Francis H. Devereux’s untimely death it was advertised that Ringville House and 70 acres would be rented “For such terms as may be agreed.” Of particular note in the advertisement was the fact that a steamer passed every day to and from New Ross and Waterford (Waterford News & Star, Fri. 5 October 1860, p. 1).
County Kilkenny—To be Let, from 29th September Instant, for such terms as may be agreed upon, The House and Demense of Ringville, containing about 70 Irish Acres of primer arable and meadow land. Ringville is beautifully situated over the river Barrow, and commands an extensive view of the picturesque scenery at the entrance of the Waterford Harbour, and afford every facility for the purposes of yachting, fishing and hunting. It is distant five miles from Waterford and eight from New Ross, a steamer passing daily to and from each place. The house is in excellent repair and contains three sitting rooms and nine bedrooms, with suitable offices, garden etc. For particulars as to terms etc. application to be made to E. Smithwick, Esq. Kilkreene, Kilkenny; or B.W. Delany, Esq., Castlewood, Durrow.
An auction of stock, crops, furniture etc. takes place at Ringville on the 1st October.”
Update of 18 May 2025–The Waterford Mail (Mon. 15 Nov. 1869, p. 2) published a notice for the Landed Estates Court of Ireland, in the matter of the estate of John Walter Devereux. Devereux was the owner and petitioner. He was seeking to sell on 7 December 1869, his life estate in part of the lands of Ringville, otherwise, Rochestown. The tract, including Marshes contained 213 statute acres and 24 perches. The land was held in fee and produced a net yearly rent of £284 4s. 7d. Devereux was described as being in his 45th year, and a proposal for an Assurance on his life was accepted by the Scottish Amicable Life Assurance Company for £5,000, at £3 per cent, for which, or for any less sum, a purchaser can take out a policy on payment of the premiums.
[Editor’s note–John Walter Devereux was a solicitor. In 1853 his professional address was 4 Bachelor’s Walk (Thom’s Irish Almanac and Official Directory With the Post Office Dublin City and County Directory, p. 1072.) In 1857 he was at 5 Harcourt St, and Kilkenny (Thom’s Official Directory of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland: Dublin Directory, p. 1654). It is likely that John Walter Devereux was a brother or cousin of Francis Harvey Devereux].
The Widow
It appears that Frances Devereux died on 31 May 1889 at the age of 69. She lived on William St. in Kilkenny City and was the widow of a solicitor. If this is the correct Frances Devereux she survived her husband by 29 years. Unfortunately, no information could be located regarding their daughter Elizabeth (b. 1857).
Please send any corrections or additional information to glenmore.history@gmail.com.
Dr. Kathleen Moore Walsh
George Gibson (1817-1897) Agent for a Glenmore Landlord
Last week we highlighted the difficult relationship that the tenants of John L. Conn (1812-1893) of Mount Ida, had with their landlord and his agent George Gibson (1817-1897). Today, we feature the agent George Gibson (1817-1897) including the numerous jobs he held often at the same time and two of his famous kin.
Multiple Jobs
Secretary to the Waterford Chamber of Commerce
At the same time George Gibson was John L. Conn’s agent he was also employed as the Secretary to the Waterford Chamber of Commerce. In fact, Gibson lived in an apartment in the building owned by the Chamber. Gibson apparently held the post for an extended period and began to call himself esquire. For general historical information on the Waterford Chamber of Commerce see Des Cowman (1988) Perceptions and Promotions: The Role of the Waterford Chamber of Commerce, 1787-1987.
As Secretary to the Waterford Chamber of Commerce it was noted in 1873 that Gibson gave 5 shillings to the Shipwrecked Mariners’ Society (Munster Express, Sat. 31 May 1973, p. 6) while others in the organisation gave £1 or more to the fund. Gibson, by his actions publicly questioned the appropriateness of labelling himself esquire.
Poor Law Rate Collector
In addition to being an agent and Secretary to the Waterford Chamber of Commerce, Gibson was also a collector for the Waterford Poor Law Board of Guardians. Gibson apparently prided himself on being the first collector to close his collection and submit his bill for the work performed. For example, in early December 1873, Gibson attended the Board of Guardians to “close his collection.” “He was the first to close his collection and earned £86 13s. 10d. for his work. He was to collect £3,554 4s. 7d., of which he lodged £3,467 17s. 3d. He proposed that £66 6s. 11d. be struck off as uncollectable and to bring forward into the next rate £20 0s. 5d.” (Waterford News & Star, Fri. 6 Dec. 1873, p. 3).
Gibson took his job as collector very seriously. In October 1870 Gibson sued Richard Walsh, BL for £6 1s. 4d. for unpaid poor rates for properties Walsh owned in Ballybricken, Waterford City. Barrister Walsh was not amused and stated in the hearing that Mr. Gibson, “had no well-ascertained place of residence, though styling himself esquire.” This statement caused laughter across the courtroom. Gibson replied that he “might not have a residence to suit the learned gentleman he had given security to the guardians, to a considerable amount, as collector, and was responsible to them, and to his securities, for the correctness of his official acts.” Judgment was entered for Gibson (Waterford News & Star, Fri. 28 Oct. 1870, p. 3).
It was reported in 1879, that due to the high cost of obtaining sureties with the London Guarantee Society, Gibson as collector for the Waterford union, substituted Joseph Ambrose, solicitor, Waterford and Robert Manning, engineer-in-chief, Board of Works, Dublin. The Waterford Board of Guardians unanimously approved (Waterford News, Fr. 17 Oct. 1879, p. 3). As will be shown below Robert Manning was Gibson’s brother-in-law.
Interestingly Conn’s tenants all fell within the Waterford Poor Law Union. Therefore, Gibson if assigned to collect for Glenmore and Mullinavat would have collected from his employer Conn and Conn’s tenants who he already sought rent from. For further information on the Poor Law Guardians and local health care see our post of 25 April 2020.
Auditor for the Waterford & Limerick Railway
The Waterford & Limerick Railway Company employed “George Gibson Esq.” of Waterford as their auditor. In February 1880 Gibson’s term as auditor expired and the Chair and Secretary of the Waterford and Limerick Railway recommended his re-election to the post (Waterford News and Star, Fri. 27 Feb. 1880, p. 3).
Secretary to the Commissioners on Public Works
In 1887, Gibson was 70 years of age and was living at Ely Place, Dublin with his brother-in-law Robert Manning. As Secretary to the Commissioners on Public Works he wrote to the Waterford Chamber of Commerce regarding a scheme for the “Junction of the railways with the Quays, Waterford, and the Bridge Made Free” (Waterford News, Fri 9 Dec. 1887, p. 3). It is not clear if Gibson held other posts at this time.
Famous Brother-in-Law and Niece
Very little of a personal nature could be found regarding George Gibson. He never married. No record of his birth or baptism could be located. No obituary could be found in Waterford or Dublin newspapers. It was only the few lines found regarding his Will that provided the first clues as to his kin.
Gibson, George, 11 January 1898, Administration (with the Will) of the estate of George Gibson late of Waterford County, Waterford, Esquire who died 1 November 1897 at Hampstead, Drumcondra, County Dublin, granted at Dublin to Elizabeth Manning of 4 Upper Ely-place Dublin Spinster, Residuary Legatee Effects £955 14s. 2d. Per the death register George Gibson died on 1 November 1897 at age 81 of a fatty heart.
According to Gibson’s headstone in Mount Jerome, Church of Ireland cemetery, Harold’s Cross, Co. Dublin, Mary Ruth Manning (1853-1930) and Georgina Manning (1862-1956) were his nieces. Elizabeth Manning (1850-1913) was the eldest Manning nieces. The photo of the headstone (provided by Dunlo St. Descendent) and information is available on Find a Grave.
In Memory of George Gibson
Second son of the late George Gibson, of 24 Lr Pembroke St.
Died Nov. 1st 1897, Aged 80 Years
Also of Mary Ruth Manning, Who died January 27th, 1930,
Second daughter of the late Robert Manning M? CE,
And niece of first named George Gibson.
Also of her youngest sister, Georgina Eleanore Manning
Who died July 10th?, 1956, In her 93rd? year
Robert Manning (1816-1897)
Robert Manning married Susanna Gibson (1817-1894) of Newtown, Waterford on 7 March 1848 at Waterford. The bride and groom were members of the Church or Ireland. George Gibson was one of the witnesses. According to the biography of Robert Manning (1816-1897) the bride and groom were second cousins. Manning was brought to County Waterford in 1826 by his mother after the death of her husband. They resided with her elder brother John Stephens, Esq. near Passage East. For a concise biography of Robert Manning (1816-1897) see, the Dictionary of Irish Architects. For further details see, Ask Ireland.
Robert Manning had no formal training in hydraulics, but is best known today for his formula that is still used today. Robert Manning systematically investigated the formulas that existed for evaluating open channel flow of water. “He used each formula for a given slope and hydraulic radius between 0.25 metres and 30 metres. After finding the mean value of all the velocities, he developed his formula that was the best fit for the data. The formula was proposed to the Institution of Civil Engineers of Ireland in December 1889.” In 1891 he wrote a scientific paper which contained his formula. This paper was published in the Transactions of the Institution of Civil Engineers of Ireland (Enviro Engineer webpage).
Robert Manning died on 9 December at 4 Upper Ely Place. He was in his 82nd year. He was buried in Mount Jerome cemetery (Evening Herald of Fri. 10 Dec. 1897, p. 1). Thus the brother-in-laws died within a month of each other.
Suffragette Georgina Manning (1862-1956)
Georgina Manning (1862-1956) a suffragette, was the youngest daughter of Robert Manning and his wife Susanna Manning née Gibson. Georgina Manning graduated from the Royal Irish Academy of Music. For many years she taught piano and harmony at the Rathmines Ladies’ Collegiate Boarding and Day School in Leinster Square. In 1907, she became a professor of music at Pleasant’s School for Protestant Orphan Females in Camden Street and earned £20 per annum.
In 1908, the Irish Women’s Franchise League was founded and Georgina joined the organisation. In March 1913 Georgia in a protest of John Redmond not supporting the vote for women threw paint on the bust of John Redmond at the Royal Hibernian Academy Exhibition. RTE covered the event in “Century Ireland 1913-1923”.
Georgina was arrested and convicted. She was fined 20 shillings and 5 shillings for damage to the bust. Georgina was given a week to pay the fine. She stated she would not pay and was prepared to go to jail. At the time her eldest sister Elizabeth died, and Georgina paid the fine and damages. As a result of her actions she lost her job notwithstanding the fact that the school offered to reinstate her if she promised not to perform future militant acts. She would not so promise, but apparently never again engaged in a militant act (Denise Dowdall, (2018) historyeye.ie, “Georgina Manning: The Woman Who Threw Paint Over John Redmond.”
Please send any corrections or additional information to glenmore.history@gmail.com .
Dr. Kathleen Moore Walsh
The First Gold Glenmore Sign
On the 17th of March, to commemorate the fourth anniversary of the death of Glenmore historian, Danny Dowling (1927-2021), Glenmore Tidy Towns and glenmore-history.com placed a historical sign at the site where Gaffney’s Mill once stood. This is the first of several planned signs to be posted in the parish. If you stop to look at the sign please look at the stone beneath it. The stone had a date inscribed in it (1810), but the stone when re-used for the pier was placed upside down. Another Glenmore mystery.
Apologies for my tardy posting, but a couple days later my better half and I were off on a cruise to celebrate our 30th wedding anniversary.
Information Provided: Gaffney’s Mill
This mural, painted by artist Graham Carew, represents Gaffney’s Mill that stood behind this wall. Gaffney’s Mill was one of 3 mills shown in Glenmore Parish on the historical survey map of the 1830’s. The mills included: Grace’s Mill in Mullinahone, Forristal’s Mill in Graiguenakill and Gaffney’s Mill here in the Village. The Gaffney family operated the mill until around 1900. The mill had a water wheel which was powered from a supply of water in a mill pond which was located behind the mill. This water was sourced from the stream that flows through the village, partly diverted at Mullinahone into a mill race. A man-made canal ran parallel to what’s known as the Mill Road. The water was released on demand and flowed back to the stream via an underground duct. In addition to a corn mill a linen mill was also operated on this site utilizing flax grown in Ballyverneen.
It is not clear when Gaffney’s Mill began operating, but it was in operation in 1798. The local leader of the United Irishman was William Gaffney (c.1763-1798) of Gaffney’s Mill. He was captured by British soldiers and hanged on the 5th of June 1798. His remains were discovered in an unmarked grave in Rosbercon over a century later with the building of the rail link between New Ross and Waterford. William Gaffney’s remains are now buried in Kilivory Cemetery, Kilmakevoge, Glenmore.
At the bottom of the sign are two GRC codes to direct readers to posts containing further information on glenmore-history.com including local events during 1798 and the discovery of William Gaffney’s remains.
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Future Glenmore Signs
Plans are underway to post signs marking the carriage house; the Ballyverneen brick pits; the Glenmore Barracks; and the the site of the first St. James’s Church. Please send on any suggestions for additional historical signs to glenmore.history@gmail.com or contact Glenmore Tidy Towns via its facebook page.
Dr. Kathleen Moore Walsh
From Danny’s Files: Glenmore Notes (1968)
Happy St. Patrick’s Day! Today, is the fourth anniversary of our founder Danny Dowling’s (1927-2021) death. At 5 p.m. a sign will be unveiled at the mural in Glenmore Village the site of the historic Gaffney’s Mill to commemorate Danny’s anniversary. The sign was created by Glenmore Tidy Towns and Glenmore-History.com., and over the coming months we hope to mark other historic sites around the parish. The signs will feature the new Glenmore-History.com logo designed by Jamie Kent of Waterford.
Below are a few excerpts from Danny’s 1968 notebook featuring several Glenmore people and local facts.
Kitty Norris née Ryan (1824-1902) of Ballyveria, Glenmore
We are all aware that the last native Irish speaker of Glenmore was Patrick Power (c. 1856-1942) of Jamestown, who died in 1942. However, Danny recorded a rather startling fact regarding a Glenmore woman Kitty Ryan of Ballyveria. “Kitty Ryan, later Mrs. Jimmy Norris of Ballyveria never knew a word of English until she was 20 years of age She became a good English speaker. She died in 1902.” If Kitty Ryan did not have a word of English it seems likely that she never attended a National School because all National Schools taught English. See our post of 23 August 2020 regarding “Glenmore and the Irish Language”.
The Glenmore Parish records provide that James Norris (c. 1835-1908) and Catherine “Kitty” Ryan were married on 13 February 1866 at Glenmore. The townland provided was Ballyveria. The fathers were not recorded, but the witnesses were John Ryan and Mary Connors. Both parties were of age, therefore, they both were over 21. The Civil Records provide more information. The groom was a labourer, and his father was Michael Norris. The bride’s father was William Ryan, (farmer).
Finding Kitty or Catherine’s date of birth was difficult. The 1901 Census revealed that James and Katherine (sic) Norris were living in Ballywairy (sic) Lower. James was a farmer and 66 years of age. Kitty was 50. Both spouses were born in Co. Kilkenny, and both spoke Irish and English. In 1901, their two closest neighbours were the Garrett Hanrick family and the Richard Murphy family.
Kitty died on the 22nd of May 1902, at Ballywairy (sic) at the age of 76. In one year she aged 26 years! The death register records that she was the wife of a labourer, and died of senile decay. Her husband James was present at her death. James himself apparently died aged 73 at the workhouse hospital on 8 March 1908. He was a widower, labourer and died from prostatitis. The register records that he was from “Ballyfacey, Co. Kilkenny.”
Parents & Siblings
Catherine “Kitty” Ryan was baptized 21 September 1824 at Bally-Vereah (sic) Glenmore. She was the daughter of William Ryan and Margaret Cassin. William Ryan married Margaret Cashin at Ballynuna, Kilmacow on 28 October 1809. Kitty had at least four brothers:
[1] Robert Ryan, baptized 14 October 1810;
[2] Patrick Ryan, baptized 9 March 1815;
[3] James Ryan baptized 11 May 1817; and
[4] Thomas Ryan baptized 4 June 1820.
We did not find any records that Kitty and Jimmy had any children. We could not locate a headstone. Without Danny’s note it seems likely that Kitty would have remained unknown.
Kitty may have had another brother William Ryan. We found some baptismal records regarding children William Ryan, of Ballyveria, fathered. James Ryan “Illegitimate” was baptised on 25 February 1843 at Glenmore the son of William Ryan and Mary Malone. Margaret Ryan “bastard” was baptised 7 June 1850 at Ballyweair (sic) to William Ryan and Mary Malone. William Ryan of Ballyveria married Mary Malone on 19 August 1850 at Glenmore. It is not clear what impediment may have stopped the couple from marrying before 1850. However, given the power of local priests in the mid-nineteenth century (for example closing all pubs in Glenmore Village) it is surprising that this situation was not resolved prior to August 1850.
Ballycroney School at Cody’s
“About 90 years ago Paddy Butler used hold classes in Cody’s of Ballycroney. It was attended by the locals.” This would have been around 1878. Danny’s note also provides that Paddy Butler died “about 70 years ago in the Carrick Union, “the master of which was a Glenmore man James Mullins.” See our post of 10 January 2021 regarding James Mullins. This appears to be the same Paddy Butler who was the master of Kilbride who was from Rahora and milked for Mullins of Flemingstown. See our post of 12 January 2025 regarding what was said from the altar regarding Paddy Butler and our post of 6 September 2020 regarding Glenmore Hedge Schools and Early National Schools. From other sources it appears that Paddy’s teaching ended in Kilbride when the Ballyfacey School opened in 1868.
Ballyfacey School at George O’Connor’s
Daniel Galavan was a teacher in a cow house belonging to George O’Connor in Ballyfacey. Charlie Linegar (1839-1923) went to the Daniel Galavan school. See Dick Claridge’s, “Glenmore Versus from the Early Twentieth Century,” including the famous prank recorded in Charlie Linegar’s Ball.
Mowing Machines
Mowing machines were first introduced into the parish over 80 years ago (circa 1888). The first to get one was Hogan of Weatherstown. Other early mowing machines were owned by Greene’s and Cody’s.
Spraying of Spuds
Spuds were first sprayed in Glenmore in 1904. The Creamery had four sprayers. [The Creamery did not open until 1905, so we believe the correct date is probably 1905.]
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Please send any corrections or additional information to glenmore-history@gmail.com
Dr. Kathleen Moore Walsh
Again special thanks to Jamie Kent for designing our new logo!
From Danny’s Files: 19th Century Abuse of Sons
Unfortunately, our home internet failed six days ago as I was researching the cases below. (Yes, we are finally dumping Eir for what we hope is a more reliable service.) In any event, over the 70 years that our founder Danny Dowling (1927-2021) collected information on Glenmore he often copied non-Glenmore newspaper specific articles that caught his attention. The two articles below were in a file Danny marked “family relations.”
Corporal punishment was a fact of life in the 19th century. Corporal punishment was practiced in public institutions such as prisons, schools, the workplace as well as in the home. The chastisement of wives has been widely discussed such as the “rule of thumb.” Husbands were allowed to “chastise” their wives with implements that did not exceed the circumference of the husband’s thumb. Men were allowed to physically chastise their children, and it was common for daughters to be locked into rooms until such time as they agreed to marry a suitor chosen by their father. However, once a son or daughter married they were emancipated and the father’s duty to chastise ceased. The married daughter now was subject to “chastisement” from her husband. The emancipated son was a man in his own right and was no longer subject to corporal punishment by his father.
The cases below provide a glimpse into 19th century family relationships. These cases were considered controversial at their respective times. Undoubtedly, these sensational cases were discussed across the country including in Glenmore.
Spencer v. Spenser & Spencer
In 1828, the Southern Reporter and Cork Commercial Courier (Thur. 21 Feb. 1828) published an article entitled “Extraordinary Case.” John Spencer, a married man, charged his father Benjamin Spencer, and his step-mother, Catherine Spencer with imprisoning him in their home for three weeks and mal-treating him. Unfortunately, none of the ages of the parties was provided. John Spenser alleged that he was “manacled, fettered and chained down to a bed frame in a garret room without fire or bedding and with little more nutriment than potatoes and water…” He was “stripped of his small clothes, waist-coat, shoes and stockings—and received occasional floggings…”
The Witnesses
John Spenser’s wife stated that the day before the hearing she had taken her husband to Edward Butler, Esq. to show Mr. Butler the condition of her husband. Her husband had a manacle on each hand that were connected by a short chain. There were horse-locks on each ancle and a hook was on one of the horse-locks. A chain ran between the short wrist chain to the hook which kept her husband from standing up straight. She removed the chain from the hook. His hair “was cut closely off.” Although she knew that her husband was in his father’s house she did “venture to go and see him, for fear of ill-treatment to herself.” She learned of her husband’s condition from “old Spencer’s maid, Anne Condran.”
Mr. Edward Butler, Esq. stated that John Spencer “came to him yesterday morning, without any small-clothes, or stockings—that he wore a kind of woollen apron which descended to his knees—that he had all the irons described about him.” Mr. Butler went to the father’s house. The keys to the irons were provided. The irons on John Spencer were then removed and his vest and small clothes were returned to him. John Spencer was at liberty.
Ann Condran stated that she was a servant maid to Benjamin Spencer for the past three months. She saw Benjamin’s son John in a room above stairs—he had bolts his hands and feet, and was chained—he was tied to the bed with other chains. She stated that she thought that John Spenser was mischievous. He once broke a pane of glass in the parlour with his hand. While he was confined, she brought him potatoes and milk, sometimes stirabout, another time meat, and sometimes dry potatoes. She could not state who chained him but she knew his step-mother cut his hair to clean him. She repeatedly stated that the neighbours knew of his confinement perhaps to show that his parents did not think they were doing anything wrong, or perhaps to relieve any guilt she may have had for not informing John Spencer’s wife earlier regarding his mal-treatment.
According to Ann Condran John Spencer got loose himself and escaped from the window. She stated that without the restraints he would have beat and bruised everyone in the household, “and had ill used his father and mother. She noted that he was chained to a bed that had a mattress but no covering on it. John Spencer was forced to eat with his handcuffs on for the entire three weeks. One time when his mother went to clean him John Spencer allegedly threw a hammer at her which was an extraordinary statement given his irons. Unfortunately, it was not reported how he obtained the hammer.
Mr. M’Dowell, governor of the gaol, testified that it is not usual in the gaol to keep the criminals hand-cuffed for three weeks. He stated that such a punishment was greater than what he used. M‘Donnell said that when young Spencer escaped from his father’s home, his head and legs bore marks of violence. He had five plasters on his wounds, and his hair was cut close off.
John Spencer, was sworn and testified that he was confined against his will in his father’s home. He was told not to expect to escape until his father’s death. He described the irons that held him and stated that his mother beat him with lashes. His father did not strike him during the three weeks. For food, he only once got stirabout and milk and potatoes twice a day. He got meat once when his step-mother was absent from the home.
John Spencer stated that he was chained to the bed and could lie on it but it did not have a stitch of covering on it. He asked for covering and it was refused. Once a “lock of straw was left in the room, he took it to lie on, under the bed, and his step-mother then took it away and used it in the shop under her feet.”
The Ruling
“Magistrates having investigated the case, consulted awhile. It was directed that Benjamin Spencer and his wife should be confined for trial Assizes, or find bail for appearance, two persons each in and themselves in £100. each. The husband subsequently, on giving the bail required for himself, was dismissed—but Catherine Spencer, in default of security was sent to prison.” In other words, Benjamin Spencer and his wife were to stand trial when the circuit judge next came to the area and could either await the judge in jail or pay £100 each as bail. Benjamin Spencer, the father, made bail for himself, but his wife was sent to prison to await the trial.
“A Melancholy Domestic Affair in Cashel,” O’Ryan v. O’Ryan
In 1847, during the Great Famine, a “family squabble” in Cashel appeared in newspapers across Ireland and in England. The victim Francis O’Ryan, Jr. was next of kin to the Right Hon. Richard Butler, Earl of Glengall, of the barony of Cahir (Liverpool Daily Post, 1 Sept 1858). The son was shot in the face by his father, Francis O’Ryan, Sr. It was initially thought that the son would die. At the time of the shooting the son was a couple of months from reaching his majority.
The Cork Examiner (Fri. 3 Sept. 1847) after noting that various versions “of the fearful affair in Cashel” appeared in various newspapers “after much deliberation” decided to publish an editorial written by the father from his prison cell to the Tipperary Vindicator. The Cork Examiner went to pains to state that it was “offering no opinion of our own, one way or the other, on this most unfortunate matter.”
Statement of Francis O’Ryan, Sr.
TO THE EDITOR THE TIPPERARY VINDICATOR. Cashel, August 29, 1847- Sir–I beg to set you right relative to a statement of an occurrence that took place in Cashel, and was mentioned your paper of the 28th inst. It is not true that I had any argument or difference with my son in consequence of his refusing to join in making leases or lease. No such circumstance ever occurred. His signature or consent to any lease made or to be made by me is not requisite; neither will entitled any property from his coming of age, or in fact until after my death.
No, Sir, what led to the unfortunate occurrence was the infliction of the greatest wrong one person could do another. I am sorry be obliged to allude to it, but the letter in your paper of yesterday leaves me no alternative. I caught my son in bed with my wife—his step-mother. This, Sir, was what led to the unfortunate affair, and not the foolish and malicious statement furnished in your paper. I am ignorant as to who the writer of the article may be, or his intentions in furnishing you with a statement so totally at variance with truth; but his information is evidently derived from the poisoned source of malicious fool well known here.
I beg also to state, that am not, nor never was, in the habit of carrying fire arms about me; neither am I, or was I, in dread of thieves. I fear more the villain who attacks character through the instrumentality of wanton and malicious lies. His remarks about my mental illness etc., are not worth answering. Requesting a place in your paper for this note, I am, Sir, your obedient servant, Francis O’Ryan.
Readers may wonder why the father would make such a statement to a newspaper. During the 19th century defendants could not testify in their own defence. By getting his version of events out into the public the father hoped to influence potential jurors. If the son had died the father would have faced murder charges, and if convicted he would have hanged. By making this public statement the father was putting forth a provocation defence which if successful would have reduced a conviction to manslaughter. Luckily, for him his son did not die.
Statement of Francis O’Ryan, Jr.
After the ball was removed from Francis O’Ryan Jr.’s head he too wrote a letter to the editor disputing what his father said occurred before the shooting.
The Tipperary Vindicator (Wed. 15 Sept. I847) published the following letter to the editor dated 9 September 1847.
Sir—Now that my medical advisers say I may use so much exertion, after life being despaired of, I hasten to reply to letter my unfortunate father, dated 29th August last (which I am much surprised you inserted in your columns), containing most diabolical charge against me-a charge deeply affecting my character, and impeaching the reputation and fidelity of an innocent woman.
More particularly when his letter was written in prison, where had been committed on a charge the most serious and aggravated, from which he would of necessity exonerate himself whether right or wrong. I totally and distinctly deny his statements; they are at utter variance with truth. I positively assert that I never did, in thought or deed, commit any act that could justify him in such cruel and un-parental violence as he has resorted to. On the night of the melancholy occurrence I repaired to bed about ten o’clock, labouring under intense agony from tooth-ache and swollen jaw, which I have been long time subject. About twelve o’clock Mrs. O’Ryan, her way to procure a drink for one of her children, having heard me complain, came into my room (which is quite near my father’s) and asked me if she would send for anything to allay the pain, when my father, armed with pistols, rushed into the room, drove Mrs. O Ryan out, left the room, and locked the door on the outside.
I got out of my room, and in some time after proceeded to the door of that in which he was, asked him for the key, and the reason for acting as he had done, when he deliberately fired a pistol at me, inflicting a most dangerous wound. His statement that he had no argument with relation to joining him in leases, also untrue, as he did ask me to a short time since, for the purpose of enabling him to raise money for his own purposes, which I refused. Ever since he has been most violent in his conduct and treatment towards me.
A statement which appeared in some papers written by a newly acquired friend of my father’s (who gave the Limerick folk reason to think of him), that he (my father) was recently married, and other insinuations reflecting on me, is equally false, as my father married nine years since, and has got two children by said marriage. I could adduce many and strange circumstances to convince the most incredulous of the motives which actuated him to commit this awful crime, but as the matter must undergo legal investigation at the proper time, I trust the Press in general will, in justice to me, insert this letter, as they have published that of my unfortunate parent, and refrain from publishing any further comments on this very deplorable subject. I am, your very obedient, Francis O’Ryan, Jun.
Junior was referencing some statements that appeared in various newspapers including the Sun (London) (Tues. 31 Aug. 1847). “Mr. O’Ryan having been for some time a widower, recently married a young and interesting lady, who, according to the version of the story on the father’s side, become an object of the son’s passion. That this sentiment was reciprocated by the youth’s stepmother, the father had, as is stated, for some short time back, more and more reason to be suspicious; and on Tuesday evening on entering his bedroom was horrified to beheld his place occupied by his unfortunate son. Maddened with rage, the unhappy father reached a loaded pistol, and fired… The lady made a precipitate retreat, and escaped before her infuriated husband could reload his weapon. An instant alarm was given and Mr. Ryan was taken into custody, and consigned to the gaol at Cashel.”
Before the internet crashed, we were able to learn that Junior went to Australia and returned to Ireland in 1858 to claim a title. At that time it was noted that his father was deceased (Liverpool Daily Post, 1 Sept. 1858). As time permits and the internet is restored we shall update these cases.
Please send any corrections or additional information to glenmore.history@gmail.com and we shall acknowledge and reply as quickly as we are able.
Dr. Kathleen Moore Walsh
Special thanks to Nial and Maeve C. for allowing us to “borrow” their internet to post this.