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Glenmore History’s Third Anniversary

Today, as we celebrate the third anniversary of Glenmore-History.com we are happy to announce that the blog has had 164,037 views and 48,097 visitors to the site. This post represents the 240th post.

In addition to our weekly posts covering a range of Glenmore items, over the past year we began posting the 1961 list of Glenmore residents made by our founder Danny Dowling (1927-2021). To date we have covered 13 townlands. One of our blog articles caught the attention of the Butter Museum that made a video regarding the theft of Glenmore butter during the War of Independence.

We continue to also post on facebook and add content to our website pages (obits, articles by guest authors) etc. As more information becomes known, or photos are provided etc. we add to previous posts and pages. Thus you should revisit favourite earlier posts as there may be new information of interest.

This past year we were delighted to share a link to a video of Danny from 1991, as well as John Ennett’s “Dancing at Sean Walsh’s.” Technical difficulties with a new video camera and programme have delayed more videos, but we hope to soon work out the difficulties.

Thanks to each and every person who has helped grow Glenmore-History.com, and we remain committed to Danny’s firmly held conviction that historical records should be freely accessible to allow individuals to discover their roots. We were able to meet several visitors over the past year who did trace their roots back to Glenmore.

We have a number of activities planned for the coming year, and our first will be a stand at the Glenmore Christmas Craft Fair & Market on Sunday, 18 December 2022. We hope to have a small display of items from Danny’s collection and items donated over the past year, as well as some old fashion leisure items (books & jigsaw puzzles) for Christmas shoppers. More on future plans in a forthcoming post.

The Glenmore Butter wrapper featured above was saved by Jo Doyle née Mernagh(1932-2021) of Weatherstown, Glenmore kindly donated by her daughter Pat. We featured some of Jo’s work in our post of 15 May 2022.

Dr. Kathleen Moore Walsh

Andrew Doherty’s Tides & Tales

As the evenings are closing in, if you are looking for local information and wonderful photos check out Andrew Doherty’s website Waterford Harbour Tides & Tales. His most recent article is “Freighting the Suir: Clonmel to Carrick 1906.” Not only does the article provide an interesting insight into the goods “supply chain” at the turn of the 20th century, but it features photos that put the information into perspective. Click here for this fascinating article and information regarding the website. The webpage includes the A-Z Place Names of the Three Sisters which is packed with local information and photos.

Glenmore: Limestone Kilns [updated]

Unlike other areas of Ireland where subsistence farming was the norm, the farmers of eastern Leinster engaged in commercial agriculture. In other words, crops were being grown to be sold rather than for subsistence. In 1770, the chief trade was in flour sold to the growing city of Dublin. By the start of the Famine crops were being grown for breweries. This commercialisation of the tillage economy is credited with causing a rapid population increase in the early 19th century. Farm labourers who made up about half the population in the region were given a small cottage and around 0.4 hectares of land. These plots were locally known as haggards and were used for growing potatoes and cereal crops by the farm labourers. After the famine farming moved from tillage to grazing. Between 1851 and 1911 arable land in Ireland halved from 1.8 million hectares to 0.9 million. Grazing with live cattle exports to Britain increased from 200,000 animals in the 1840’s to 400,000 animals in the 1860’s. The last decade of the 19th century saw this increased to 800,000 animals (Kevin Whelan, (1997) “The Modern Landscape from Plantation to Present” in Atlas of the Irish Rural Landscape, p. 67).

Lime Kilns of Glenmore

The landscape of Glenmore still has the ruins of old lime kilns that long ago were used for the production of quicklime or buntlime. One good example is at the crossroads in Ballycroney. Quicklime was produced by heating limestones at high temperatures in a lime kiln. Quickline was used in agriculture to change the PH of the soil and in building projects for mortar. Farm lime kilns were very common in the 18th and early part of the 19th century. They were replaced in the second half of the 19th century, after the Famine, by industrial lime and brick works. There were two types of permanent farm kilns used in the production of quicklime for agricultural purposes, namely: draw kilns and the less common flare kilns. Both kilns were loaded from the top and had their fire boxes at the bottom. Kilns were usually built into the bank of a hillside and enclosed on the other three sides by a stone-built rectangular shaped structure. The draw-hole or stoke hole was located at the front of the kiln base. It provided draft and access to the fire and was where the quicklime was removed. The draw hole was often built large enough to accommodate two men and sometimes a cart. Draw kilns burned limestone in a continuous process (p.19). Because of the need to generate temperatures in the region of 1000 degrees Celsius for long periods, lime kilns required a large amount of fuel. In the late 19th century in Munster, furze was the main fuel source. In other parts of Ireland furze was used to start the fire or was mixed with other fuels (Muiris O’Sullivan & Liam Downey, “Lime Kilns,” (19)2 Archaeology Ireland (Summer 2005) pp. 18-22).

Danny Dowling (1927-2021) interviewed Nicky “the Miller” Forristal (1888-1979) in November 1977 (DD Notebook 5) concerning the burning of lime in Glenmore. Nicky stated that the local farmers brought limestone from the quarries at Dunkitt, in Kilmacow, up river in a gabbard. “After discharge at the local quays the stones were transported in horse and cart to the lime kilns. They were then spalled—that is to say that they were broken to the size of about 2 hands clenched together. The kiln was then packed in the follow order: 1st furze at bottom to light the culm; 2nd on this was placed a layer of culm; and 3rd next a layer of limestone. After this it was every alternate layer of culm and limestone until the kiln was filled to the top. It was then set alight and it burned for 3 or 4 days.” According to a modern dictionary culm was coal dust.

Nicky went on to state that as a chap he saw the kilns at Ballyverneen Quay, and at Ennett’s in Cappagh, burning lime on a few occasions. Lime kilns were situated at the following locations:

(1) A kiln was located on Kiln Hill which was over Glenmore ½ way up on Neddie Connor’s side in Cody’s field, in the townland of Graiguenakill.

(2) Ballyverneen—at Waterford side of Maid’s Quay on other side of road.

(3) Ballyverneen—at Quay opposite Dick Dunphy’s cottage where Dolan’s later lived. It was fed from the roadroad. Although the kiln is gone its outline can still be seen.

(4) Graiguenakill–on Barron’s Quay below Forristal’s Mill. This Quay was public and was an open space years ago. Paddy Forristal in an interview in 1980 referred to it being on a commons and noted the kiln was gone.

(5) Cappah–at top of Ennet’s Marsh. It is gone.

(6) Jamestown–at top of Main Roche’s Hill in Green’s field. It is gone.

(7) Bishopstown–opposite Richie Hennessey’s cottage.

(8) Bishopstown–at Ballybrahee Lane.

(9) Weatherstown–on the commons.

Given the prominence of the kiln at the crossroads in Ballycroney it is surprising it was not mentioned. We did find it recorded on the Orinance Survey Map. If readers are aware of where other lime kilns were or are located in or around Glenmore parish would you please send the information to glenmore.history@gmail.com ?

[Update 6 Sept. 2022, Martin Forristal identified a lime kiln in Rochestown near the river. See Martin’s comment below for further details.]

Kearney Bay Lime Kiln

[Update 6 Sept 2022, Brian Forristal identified and sent the photo to the right of a lime kiln in Kearney Bay. It is located down the rock Road, past Tom Heffernan’s farm. It is about half a mile from there on the right hand side.]

 

Life & Death

After lime kilns fell out of use at least one family lived in the Graiguenakill lime kiln. Billy Fleming and his sister Jane Fleming made the Graiguenakill kiln their home (Danny Dowling, Notebook 8 (1955)).  Unfortunately, no further information was provided by Danny regarding Billy Fleming or his sister Jane or when they resided in the kiln. A quick search of the parish records presented a possible match. There was a William Fleming baptized at Glenmore on 16 March 1826 to Patrick Fleming and his wife Margaret Barden. No similar record could be located for Jane Fleming, but Patrick and Margaret had another son Peter (bapt. 8 July 1824) at Grangekille (sic) Glenmore.

Lastly, while performing a newspaper search (for something else) the following article was found regarding a kiln operated in Carrigcloney, Glenmore in 1827. This article was found in the Drogheda Journal, or Meath & Louth Advertiser (Sat. 19 May 1827) and appears to have been copied from the Waterford Chronicle. It highlights the dangers associated with lime burning.

Melancholy Occurrence. —On Thursday last, a poor limeburner, named Freeman, while working at a kiln, at Carrigcloney, Parish of Glenmore, County Kilkenny, the man below was drawing the lime, many of the stones above, from being overburned, calcined or adhering to the side of the kiln, when the poor fellow walked on the side of the kiln, and with a pole endeavoured to cause the lime to pass, it immediately shifted, and he, poor creature, got fast in the middle of it. The exertions of four stout men pulling him by the arms, were not aide to disengage him, until they procured rope a short distance off, he burning all the time, by fastening it under his arms they brought him up. He died a short time afterwards in great agony.Waterford Chronicle.

Freeman is not a common Glenmore name, however in the parish records we did find where a Laurence Freeman, in nearby Rathanure (sic) married Margaret Day, of Rathanure, on 14 January 1824 at Glenmore.  Witnesses were Nancy Freeman and Mary Grant. The poor man who was burned in the kiln was not Laurence as Laurence and his wife had 2 children born after May 1827. The couple had Bridget Freeman (bapt. 17 March 1828) and Laurence Freeman (bapt. 15 Dec. 1830). Turning to Griffiths Valuation 1829, a John Freeman of Rathinure is listed. What relationship, if any, the Rathinure Freemans may have had to the deceased limeburner is not known.

Please send any corrections and further information to glenmore.history@gmail.com . The photos of the kiln at the Ballycroney cross was taken last week.

Dr. Kathleen Moore Walsh

SOUTH KILKENNY HISTORICAL SOCIETY: Programme July to November 2022

Programme of Events – July to November 2022

Sunday, July 10th–Fraochan Sunday – Members will join locals and others on the summit
of Tory Hill. Fraochan Sunday is a tradition dating back centuries and is associated with the ancient festival of Lughnasa.

Sunday, July 31st–2.30pm – A fun filled guided tour of Silverspring House, Mooncoin
This event must be pre-booked before Sunday, July 24th, by contacting Eddie Synnott (086 8124349 or edsynnott@yahoo.co.uk)


Sunday, August 21st: Heritage Week–2.30pm – Mystery tour of Mullinavat, commencing at the church car
park.


LECTURES
Thursday, September 29th
Topic: 1972: Ireland joins the EEC
Speaker: Eugene Broderick


Thursday, October 27th
Topic: A history of the National School system in Ireland
Speaker: Joe Doyle


Thursday, November 24th
Topic: Healing Civil War wounds through sport
Speaker: Patrick Mannix


All lectures will commence at 8pm. Due to the ongoing COVID-19 situation it is unclear whether the lectures will be ‘live’ in Mullinavat Parish Hall, live streamed via Zoom, or a combination of both.

If you have any queries regarding the programme of events please contact Eddie Synnott at edsynnott@yahoo.co.uk .

Happy May Day!

For a brief discussion of the local May Bush tradition see our previous post of 22 April 2021. Although it has been showery and overcast May Bushes did make an appearance in Glenmore this morning. The feature photo is the small May Bush in the Village. This year yellow and blue ribbons feature to show support for the people of Ukraine.

If you kept the old tradition alive please send a photo to glenmore.history@gmail.com or feel free to post it on our facebook page.

Rathinure 2022

Weatherstown 2022

Ballycroney Glenmore (1961)

Today, we are going to feature information that Danny Dowling recorded in a notebook that he drafted in 1960/1961. This was an important time as it began a decade of great change nationally and internationally. It commenced in January 1961 with John F. Kennedy being inauguated as the first Catholic President of the United States. For our international readers the Kennedy ancestoral home is located across the River Barrow from Glenmore. The year ended with the launch of Telefís Éireann on 31 December. The first broadcast featured President de Valera.

Danny in his notebook recorded the residents of the parish per the townlands where they lived. Birth dates or birth years of some of the older residents are listed or were gleaned from available public records.  Today, we are going to feature the 12 families recorded in Ballycroney. For some time after drafting the notebook Danny recorded dates of death or simply noted that a resident had died.

The recorded information reveals that 43 people resided in Ballycroney with the population almost equally divided between males and females. The largest family recorded was the Boland family, and there were three households comprised of one person living on their own. The majority of households were supported by agriculture with only 5 persons were recorded as being employed in non-agricultural work (1 male and 4 females).

Recorded Residents
Males=22
Females=21
Total = 43
Eldest Recorded Resident = Luke Fitzgerald (b. 1883) [Aged 78/79 in 1961]


Recorded Work
Farmers =5 (4 Males & 1 Female)
Farm/Agricultural Workers= 12 (All males)
Punch Machine Operator= 1 (Female)  
Clerk Typist = 1 (Female)
Waitress = 1 (Female)   
Housemaid = 1 (Female)

BALLYCRONEY RESIDENTS

[1] FITZGERALD
Fitzgerald, Luke (b. 28 Feb. 1883)  Farmer
Fitzgerald, James, son, farm

[2] HENNESSY
Hennessey, Bridget (b. 15 Aug. 1887) Farmer (died, but date of death not recorded)
Hennessey, Richard (b. 1915)  son, farm
Hennessey, Ellen,  daughter-in-law
Hennessey, Martin,  son 
Hennessey, Martin,   grandson

[3] BOLAND
Boland, William (b. 1915) Agricultural Labourer
Boland, Mary (b. 1916)  Wife [usually called Minnie]
Boland, John, son, Agricultural Labourer
Boland, William,  son, Agricultural Labourer
Boland, Anne,  daughter
Boland, Nellie, daughter
Boland, Margaret, daughter
Boland, Thomas, son
Boland, Bridget, daughter

[4] HAGAN
Hagan, Patrick (b. 17 Mar. 1904) Head, Farm Labourer

[5] CODY [known locally as the Odie Cody’s]
Cody, Richard (b. 1921) Farmer
Cody, John (b. 1922) brother, farm
Cody, Walter (b. 1928) brother, farm
Cody, Michael (b. 1925) brother, farm

[6] MACKEY
Mackey, John (b. 17 July 1902) Farmer
Mackey, Brigid (b. 1907) wife
Mackey, John, son, farm
Mackey, Catherine, daughter, punch machine operator
Mackey, Johanna, daughter


[Editor’s note–Munster Express, Fri. 3 Feb. 1961, p. 14–“Examination success—Amongst the successful candidates in the Civil Service Commissioners examination for appointment to the position of Telephonist held in December last, was C. Mackey, Ballycroney, Glenmore.”

[7] GAULE
Gaule, Patrick (b. 20 Jan. 1908) Lorry Driver
Gaule, John Joseph, son
Gaule, Mary Angela, daughter
Gaule, Elizabeth, daughter
Gaule, Brigid, daughter

[8] HARTE
Harte, Mary (b. 10 Feb. 1910)
Harte, Ellen, daughter, shorthand typist
Harte, Bridget, daughter

[9] COTTERELL
Cotterell, John (b. 23 May 1909)  Farmer
Cotterell, Thomas (b. 16 Nov. 1912) brother, farm

[10] BUTLER
Butler, Anastatia (b. 17 May 1888)

[11] BUTLER
Butler, Mary (b.1924) housemaid

[12] POWER
Power, John, old age pensioner
Power, Bridget (b. 1904)
Power, Thomas Richard, son, farm labourer
Power, Margaret, daughter, waitress (hotel)


We hope that you have enjoyed or found this snapshot of Ballycroney interesting and over the coming weeks we will feature the residents of other townlands from this notebook.

Please send any corrections, additional information, or queries to glenmore.history@gmail.com.

Dr. Kathleen Moore Walsh