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From Danny’s Photo Album 2.0 [updated]
Last week we had a very good response to the photo readers identified as Forristal’s Mill of Graiguenakill, Glenmore. Today, we are featuring a photo of 11 Glenmore boys with hurleys found in one of Danny’s photo albums. Can you identify any of these boys and when Danny took this photo?
[Thanks to everyone for the speedy responses. So far we have several possible identifications…
From row (left to right) [1] Billy O’Keefe of the Village (?) ; [2] John Shea or Pat Power, the Village (?); [3] John Power, the Village(?); [4] —?—; [5] —?—
Back row (left to right: [1] Neddy Dowling, of Jamestown; [2] Jimmy Phelan (?); [3] Seamus Jones (?) the Village; [4] —?—; [5] Paddy Griffin (?); [6] Packie Jones (?) the Village or Martin Forristal (?) the Village. ]
Update 1 June 2022–back row (chap with glasses) [4] Christy Power, of Carrigcloney
“Glenmore Notes”: A Munster Express Column [Updated]
Commencing in about August 1900 and continuing until the end of 1903 the Munster Express published a column entitled “Glenmore Notes.” The newspaper proudly proclaimed the column was “From our own Correspondent.” Unfortunately, the Munster Express never identified its Glenmore correspondent for the Glenmore Notes (1900-1903).
From the topics covered in “Glenmore Notes” from 1900 to 1903 it is likely that the unnamed correspondent was a local man. An example of the typical column in 1900 was published on Saturday, 8 September 1900 (p.8) and is as follows:
“A great many farmers have their corn safely secured in the stackyard at present. The two new Reaper and Binder Machines, purchased this summer by Messrs Willie Rowe and Pat Fitzgerald, Weatherstown, did splendid work.
[Editor’s note: Thanks to a reader Wm. Rowe has been identified. Wm. Rowe, of Ballyhobuck, was married to an aunt of John Kirwan, of Gaulestown. She died shortly after their marriage. He later married an aunt of Mick and Andy Walsh who was from near Powerswood in Thomastown. Wm. Rowe had no children with either wife.]
[Updated 9 May 2022: Thanks to information supplied by two readers it is believed that William Rowe was a native of Mooncoin. The following information was gleaned from public records. On 11 April 1883 William Roe (sic) married Mary Kirwan of Gaulestown at Glenmore. On the 8th of September 1884, Mary Rowe née Kirwan (c. 1857-1884) died at the age of 27 of pulmonary congestion. William Rowe married a widow Ellen Dollard at Chapel Hill on 28 February 1889. The marriage records reveals that William’s father was William Rowe (deceased) and the bride’s father was Michael Cassin. Both father’s were listed as farmers. William Rowe (c. 1848-1932) died on 29th of July 1932 at Ballyhobuck of pneumonia at the age of 84. His nephew Andrew Walsh was present when he died. Ellen Rowe née Cassin (c. 1859-1937) died at the age of 78 on the 29th October 1937 at Ballyhobuck.]
A collision took place at ” The Churns” on Sunday last between a traveller for a certain machine company and the local postman. Both were on wheels. Except a little shock received everything else was all right. They parted in good humour, one wishing the other good luck for the rest of the day.
A Mullinavat gentleman took a remarkable eel out of the Mullinavat stream with his fishing rod on Tuesday last. He gave the following description of it to a friend of mine at the dispensary door:—Length, 3 feet, without the head; the latter was of a prodigious size, and without eyes. I may mention that he intends making a purse out of the skin.
I noticed four of the Glenmore boys cycling at racing speed along the ‘V’ road on Sunday afternoon. On arrival at the Cross Roads, Mr G. gave the order ‘Turn to the right;’ all obeyed. He did not cry ‘Halt’ until they arrived at Mr. Rockett’s, Slieverue. Of course, all went in. Needless to say their wants were attended to in capital style. After a short stay they remounted, bound for Dunmore, next to Tramore, and back again to Glenmore. At present I’ll say no more.”
The old “Glenmore Notes” from 1900-1903 provides a glimpse into what local people were discussing 120 years ago. Later in the late 1990’s the Munster Express again began publishing a column called “Glenmore Notes” which was written by Billy Forristal (c. 1915-2005) of Rochestown, Glenmore. Billy continued to write his column until January 2001. For further infomation concerning Edward Walsh (1862-1946) the proprietor and editor of the Munster Express, and his Glenmore connections, see our previous blog post of 24 January 2022.
Please send any corrections or additional information to glenmore.history@gmail.com.
Dr. Kathleen Moore Walsh
The old cigarette card depicting an eel is courtesy of the New York City Library’s Digital Collection; NYPL catalogue ID (B-number): b15262620 Universal Unique Identifier (UUID): fe260800-c53f-012f-018b-58d385a7bc34; and is part of the George Arents Cigarette Card Collection.
Busherstown, Glenmore (1961)
Today, we are going to feature information that Danny Dowling recorded regarding the residents of the townland of Busherstown, Glenmore, around 1961. The Irish for this townland, according to Kelly’s, The Place Names of the County of Kilkenny (1969, p. 102) is Baile Bhuiséir or Busher’s homestead. This townland is comprised of 345 acres and is situated in the Civil Parish of Ballygurrim.
Griffith’s Valuation 1830
In 1830 Edward Murphy, Esq. was the landlord of Busherstown. Seven tenants are listed, but there is no breakdown of the acreage. The tenants include: [1] Edward Dooling; [2] Joseph Walsh & [3] Cashin (no first name recorded); [4] James Hartilly; [5] Michael Walsh; [6] Edmund Prendergast; and [7] William Purcell.
Interview of Michael Power, of Busherstown, Glenmore
On the 9th of May 1969, Danny interviewed Michael Power, of Busherstown, Glenmore (DD Notebook 4). Michael provided information concerning the “extinct” Tobin’s of Busherstown. The Tobin’s house stood in a field under land over to Hartley’s and Fitzgerald’s. The field contained 1.5 acres. Michael also noted that “Aunty” Matthew’s field of 1.5 Irish acres is at the double turn going up to Weatherstown. In 1969 it belonged to Hartley’s of Busherstown.
Lastly, Michael told Danny about the Busherstown ghost. The “Billy Joe’s” lived in a house where in 1969 the Hartley’s hayshed was located in Busherstown. “Old James Hartley said he saw her (an old lady spinning) sitting on a stool when she was dead and gone.” Unfortunately, no last name was provided for the “Billy Joe’s”.
1961 Busherstown
Danny recorded eight families or households in Busherstown around 1961. Birthdates or birth years are provided for some of the older residents gleaned from available public records. For some time after drafting his notebook, Danny recorded the dates of death or simply recorded that a resident had died. The recorded information reveals that 43 people resided in Busherstown with the population of 18 males and 25 females. Two families were comprised of 8 members each. Thus, the Walter Walsh and Hartley/Mullally families tied as the largest families recorded. There were no households recorded of a single person living alone.
Recorded Residents
Males= 18
Females= 25
Eldest Recorded Resident= Anne Power born 4 February 1882. Death register reveals that Anne died on the 19th of June 1962. Thus, Anne was 79 in 1961.
Recorded Work
Farmers= 6 (5 males; 1 female)
Farm/Agricultural Workers=8 (all males)
Meat Factory Worker=1 (1 male)
Carpenter= 1 (1 male)
No women were recorded as being employed outside the home or off the farm.
BUSHERSTOWN RESIDENTS
[1] MACKEY
Mackey, William(12 Aug. 1910) Farmer
Mackey, Alice (1912) wife
[2] WALSH
Walsh, Walter (24 March 1907) Farmer
Walsh, Ellen (1917) wife
Walsh, William, son, farm worker
Walsh, Anastatia, daughter
Walsh, Margaret, daughter
Walsh, Anne, daughter
Walsh, Mary (20 Sept. 1885) aunt, (died 17 March 1962)
Walsh, Jane (3 June 1895) aunt
[3] POWER
Power, Michael (20 Sept. 1884) farm worker
Power, Anne (4 Feb. 1882) wife [died, but no date of death recorded]
Long, Walter, Lodger
Long, Mrs.
[4] HENNESSEY
Hennessey, Richard (1925) Carpenter
Hennessey, Mary, wife
Hennessey, John, son
Hennessey, Hannah, daughter
Hennessey, Margaret, daughter
[5] HARTLEY
Hartley, Bridget (12 June 1911) Farmer
Hartley, Eileen, daughter, (married 30 Aug. 1961)
Hartley, Breda, daughter
Hartley, Loretta, daughter
Mullally, Thomas, son-in-law, farm worker
Mullally, Mary, daughter
Mullally, Thomas, grandson
Hartley, Thomas (3 April 1900) brother-in-law, farm worker
[6] FITZGERALD
Fitzgerald, John (25 March 1897) Farmer
Fitzgerald, John, son, farm worker
Fitzgerald, Patrick, son, farm worker
[7] HOLDEN
Holden, John (17 March 1912) Head, Farmer
Holden, Michael (1921) brother, farm worker
Holden, Margaret (1926) wife
Holden, Mary, daughter
Holden, Helen, daughter
[8] HOLDEN
Holden, Bartley (16 Nov. 1916) Farmer
Holden, Margaret (1921) wife
Holden, Mary, daughter
Holden, Breda, daughter
Holden, Edward (1919) brother, farm worker
[9] POWER
Power, James (1924) Meat Factory Worker
Power, Mary Eliz. (1927) wife
Power, Bernadette, daughter
Please send any corrections or further information to glenmore.history@gmail.com.
The drawing of the woman spinning is courtesty ofo the New York Public Library Digital Collection. Henry W. and Albert A. Berg Collection of English and American Literature, The New York Public Library. “Beauty in a state of adversity” The New York Public Library Digital Collections. 1813.
Dr. Kathleen Moore Walsh
Glenmore Players in the Leinster Senior Football Final 1922
In the 1920 County Kilkenny Senior Football Championship, finished in February 1922, Glenmore played Cloneen (Castlecomer), thus a team from the south of the county played a team from the north. In November 1922 when the County Kilkenny team was being selected for the Leinster Senior Football Final nine members of the 1920 Glenmore County Champion team were selected and five members of Cloneen. It is not known which Kilkenny club the 15th player belonged. It was reported in the Kilkenny People concerning the Leinster Final that the historic struggles that ensued from the 1920 County Championship battle between Glenmore and Cloneen were still fresh in the memory of all Kilkenny Gaels (Sat. 11 Nov. 1922, p. 1). For details concerning the final game of the 1920 Kilkenny Senior Football Championship, played in February 1922, see our post of 20 February 2022.
Two attempts in 1922 to schedule the Leinster Senior Football Final were cancelled due to the persistent Great Southern railway strikes. After consulting with the officials in Kilkenny it was decided “to refix in Croke Park, irrespective of the rail situation.” A Dublin newspaper declared this to be a sensible course to “get rid of arrears of work as quickly as possible,” although it was conceded that it would prove difficult for the Kilkenny followers to attend the match in Dublin without the train services. It was reported that the ready acquiescence of the Kilkenny Gaels heralded a “refreshing confidence in their capacity to make a bold bid for three provincial honours…against the accomplished and formidable Dublin champions (Sport, Sat. 4 Nov. 1922, p. 4) which is at odds with the fact that the Kilkenny People noted that the battle between Glenmore and Cloneen was still fresh.
The Kilkenny team that played at the Leinster Final was reported as follows: J. Hanrahan, M. Connolly, J. Fitzgerald, P. Hughes, J. Coady, A. Brennan, M. Coady, A. Heffernan, P. Hartley, J. McKenna, W. Irish, Jas. Phelan, T. Brennan, W. Landy, P. Dalton (Kilkenny People, Sat. 11 Nov. 1922, p. 1). The GAA Bible, on the other hand, lists the team as: Martin Cody (Capt.), Andy Heffernan, Paddy Hanley, I. Phelan, Bill Irish, P. Cody, Jimmy Hanrahan, Mick Connolly, John Fitzgerald, Paddy Dalton, Andy Brennan, Paddy Hughes, Tom Brennan, Jack McKenna, and Watt Landy. (Gerry O’Neil, Kilkenny GAA Bible 2018, p. 134). It is not known why the two lists differ slightly, but it appears that the first nine players in the GAA Bible list were the Glenmore players.
The Leinster Final Game
The travel difficulties did impact on attendance and “a couple of the chosen [Kilkenny] team were held up en route” to the match (Kilkenny Moderator, Sat. 11 Nov. 1922, p. 7). It was estimated that only about 10,000 people were present in Croke Park on Sunday the 5th of November 1922 for the Senior Leinster Football Championship. However, it was stated in press reports that the attendance figure was not official (Kilkenny People, Sat. 11 Nov. 1922, p. 1). What was agreed in all press reports was the fact that the weather was poor. It was a dull evening, with sharp showers (Kilkenny Moderator, Sat. 11 Nov. 1922, p. 7). In the second half a “great change came over the weather … A strong wind swept up the field and sleets of rain made matters worse. Dublin had the advantage of the wind, but Kilkenny fought gamely to the end,” (Kilkenny People, Sat. 11 Nov. 1922, p. 1).
Most of the following account of the Leinster Final was reported in the Kilkenny Moderator (Sat. 11 Nov. 1922, p. 7) with additional details gleaned from other newspapers.
“Kilkenny were first away, and had a fine point by Connolly in the first five minutes. The Synotts, Carey and M’Donnell sent Dublin into Kilkenny ground soon after, but the Kilkenny defence, led by Irish, held out, and Dalton in goal, when called upon, proved reliable, as he did all through the game.”
“Fluctuation of fortune were fast and vigorous, but Kilkenny were giving a flattering display. The Dublin lot were entertaining, however, and in a sharp attack. P. M’Donnell equalised with a minor. Very interesting play followed, in which every sector participated, and no further scoring ensued for a long time, till Fitzgerald sent over a flying point for Kilkenny. The game continued an excellent one, Kilkenny being very good and M’Kenna was very prominent in initiating dangerous assaults which the Dublin backs found it hard to cope with. There was no decided superiority on either side, and at the interval Kilkenny led with 2 points to 1 for Dublin.”
“The resumption soon saw the Metropolitans exerting their clever tactics, and despite a vigorous Kilkenny struggle the champions settled down into Kilkenny ground. Scores were not easily got, however, and any opportune chances were ably frustrated, till Reilly sent down for P. M’Donnel to secure and equalise with a point.”
“With only the goalman to beat on two occasions in the second half, Connolly was disgracefully pulled down by one of the Dublin backs.” The Kilkenny correspondent opined, “A simple free kick is certainly not sufficient punishment for such a mean foul”(Kilkenny People, Sat. 11 Nov. 1922, p. 1).
“The Kilkenny defence, including the goal man, a veteran of 1911, was good throughout, and frustrated the wiliest of Dublin attack, which, however, could not altogether be denied.” Kilkenny’s power of penetration was almost completely curbed during the second half.”
“The Dublin half line were invulnerable, and Kilkenny were constantly defending; but some of the Dublin finishes were very wild. A lead was a long time coming, however, but Dublin at length got ahead when M’Donnell shot a nice minor. Play was still in Kilkenny ground, and Shanahan added a point, which M’Donnell supplemented very soon after.”
“It was hard luck when Connolly (who played a great game) with the Dublin goalie beaten, struck the base of the post on the inside with a great shot. Dublin’s goal a few minutes later had a charmed escape when Kilkenny stormed and the ball was swept in… Kilkenny’s goalman had several great ovations for his brilliant saves. He was not to blame for the only goal that entered his net—it was a soft shot, and came through several players, and Dalton was completely unsighted”(Kilkenny People, Sat. 11 Nov. 1922, p. 1).
“Robbins contributed a point before the final whistle, and Dublin had won well on the score: Dublin—1 goal, 7 points; Kilkenny—2 points.”
The Kilkenny People summed up that it was a thrilling game in the first half, when weather and ground were favourable and Kilkenny simply “snowed” Dublin. However, Kilkenny missed some scoring opportunities in the first half where three frees should have yielded points in the opening stages of the match, and missed two frees in the closing stages of the match (Sat. 11 Nov. 1922, p. 1) The Kilkenny Moderator similarly concluded that, “It was not a great final by any means. The opening half, in which Kilkenny played a fine, dashing game, and held Dublin at all points, was up to a good standard, but in the end the field craft and combination of Dublin prevailed. The second half was altogether in Dublin’s favour, and they dominated the game in an unmistakable fashion” (Sat. 11 Nov. 1922, p. 7).
Perhaps the most interesting Dublin newspaper article concerning the final is found in Sport, which also recognised the impact of the railway strikes on the Kilkenny team being able to practice. “Kilkenny gave a wonderfully virile and effective display, and held their experienced opponents well. They adopted admirable tactics for a team short of collective practice, played a fast, loose, bustling game, and maintained it splendidly to the interval…The scorer for Kilkenny in the first half was Connolly (a smart and opportune forward), but Cody and Fitzgerald gave fine assistance, both showing great forward qualities. For a team however, which has been so hampered in practice, without regular matches, and deprived at the last moment of selected players, Kilkenny did grandly. With the exception of one veteran—the goalman, Dalton—who saved his posts in extremis repeatedly, they are all a young team with limitless possibilities when trained in the proper manner” (Sport, Sat. 11 Nov. 1922, p. 14).
Although the Kilkenny team did not win the Leinster Senior Football Final in November 1922, it is a remarkable feat that 9 of the 15 members of the Kilkenny team were Glenmore players, and with little opportunity for collective practice with their rivals Cloneen, this team of rivals showed great promise.
Please send any further information or corrections to glenmore.history@gmail.com.
The featured drawing above of the Leinster flag drawn by Setana Saki, based on the 1651 Arms of Leinster and the work is available at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_Leinster.svg with use permitted under Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 Unported license.
Dr. Kathleen Moore Walsh
Ballyverneen, Glenmore (1961)
Today, we are going to feature information that Danny Dowling recorded regarding the residents of the townland of Ballyverneen around 1961. The Irish for this townland is Baile uí Bheirnín, and Danny recorded that there was a settlement, or area in Ballyverneen, called Bearstown. We located one headstone in the cemetery adjacent to St. James that has the following transcription, “Erected by Richard Dunphy, of Bearstown, in memory of his father James Dunphy who departed this life 10th August 1841, aged 65 years.” We also found Bearstown recorded on the Ordinance Survey Maps (Between 1829 and 1842 the first large scale survey of Ireland was completed. OSI historical maps and information are available to view at Ordinance Survey Ireland. For other links to old maps click on our useful links button on our homepage.) It was only with the building of the New Ross to Waterford railway at the beginning of the 20th century that brick making in Ballyverneen ended.
Danny recorded eight families or households in Ballyverneen as well as a group of men who were dredging the river. Further information concerning the dredging operations is below. Birthdates or birth years are provided for some of the older residents gleaned from available public records. For some time after drafting his notebook, Danny recorded the dates of death or simply recorded that a resident had died. The recorded information reveals that 43 people resided in Ballyverneen with the population of 24 males and 19 females. If the visiting dredgers are removed from the population there were 37 people residing in Ballyverneen (18 males & 19 females). The largest family recorded was the Forristal/O’Dwyer family comprised of eight persons and there were two households of a single person.
Recorded Residents
Males=24
Females=19
Eldest Recorded Resident= Laurence “Larry” Forristal(b. 11 Dec. 1886. Death register reveals that he died on the 27th June 1963.) Thus Laurence was 74 in 1961.
Recorded Work
Farmers= 2 (both males)
Farm/Agricultural Workers= 4 (all males)
Labourer= 6 (all males)
Carpenter= 1 (male)
Bookkeeper= 1 (female)
Domestic Servant = 1 (female)
Dredge workers= 6 (all males)
BALLYVERNEEN RESIDENTS
[1] LINEGAR
Linegar, James (b. 19 May 1889) General Labourer (died but date of death not recorded)
Linegar, Annie (b. 1912) wife
Cass, Martin, step-son, General Labourer, (note moved to Aylwardstown)
Linegar, Kathleen, daughter, domestic servant
Linegar, Anne, daughter
Linegar, Josie, daughter
Linegar, Christopher, son
[2] DOOLAN
Doolan, Patrick (b. 1919) Co. Council Labourer
Doolan, Annie (b.1929) wife [known locally as Nancy]
Doolan, Mary, daughter
Doolan, Edward, son
Forristal, Mary (10 May 1896) mother-in-law [This Forristal family was known locally as the Civil Forristals.]
[3] KENNEDY
Kennedy, John (b. 1926) Carpenter
Kennedy, Margaret (b. 1934) wife
Kennedy, Patrick, son
Kennedy, Nora, daughter
Kennedy, Daniel, son
[4] DUNPHY
Dunphy, Ellen (b. 4 June 1898) Farmer
Dunphy, Seamus (b. 1927) son, farm
Dunphy, Margaret, daughter, bookkeeper [known as Maudie Dunphy & worked in Glenmore Creamery]
Dunphy, Mary, daughter [known as May Dunphy}
Dunphy, Richard, son, farm
[5] FORRISTAL
Forristal, Patrick (b. 28 Sept. 1898) Farmer
Forristal, Kate (b. 15 Aug. 1895) wife
O’Dwyer, Denis, son-in-law, farm
O’Dwyer, Margaret, daughter
O’Dwyer, John, grandson
O’Dwyer, Moyra, granddaughter
O’Dwyer, Kay, granddaughter
O’Dwyer, Margaret, granddaughter
[6] DUNPHY
Dunphy, Mary (b. 11 July 1915)
Dunphy, Thomas, son, farm worker (recorded that he moved to England)
Dunphy, Bridget, daughter
Dunphy, Michael, son
Forristal, Laurence (b. 11 Dec. 1886) uncle, labourer (noted that he died, no date given in notebook. The death register records his date of date as 27 June 1963 ) [Larry Forristal was Nicky “the Miller” Forristal’s brother.]
[7] WALSH
Walsh, Michael (b. 1918) general labourer [locally known as Mick the Weaver.]
[8] DUNPHY
Dunphy, Richard (b. 5 July 1893) retired labourer
[9] DREDGE WORKERS
Robson, Richard Ernest (b. 1901) Skipper dredge boat
Davies, Thomas H. (b.1903) dredge worker
Johnston, Kenneth R. (b.1924) dredge worker
Matthews, Richard A. (b. 1906) dredge worker
Owen, William I. (b. 1923) dredge worker
Ethington, Fred, dredge worker
Dredging at the Pink Rock
The New Ross Standard (Fri. 17 March 1961, p. 12) reported that in an effort to improve the condition of the River Barrow to allow larger ships to enter New Ross, the New Ross Harbouor Commissioners hired a dredge from a firm in Milford Haven. The dredge, named the “Basingstroke,” arrived on the 12th of March and began working. It dredged the Kilkenny bank channel at the Pink Rock and was to remove 30,000 tons. It was reported that the dredge had an output of about one hundred tons per hour and had capacity for about four hundred tons. A crew of seven operated the dredge including John Culleton “whose parents live in the Ballymitty area.”
The dredging “on the Red Bank at the Pink Rock” was completed in mid-August with a “considerable portion of the toe of the dangerous sand bank which curtailed the length and draught of ships entering the port has been removed.” The dredger removed 24,000 cubic yards of material at a total cost of £6,000 (New Ross Standard, Fri. 18 Aug. 1961 p. 12).
We hope that you have enjoyed or found this snapshot of Ballyverneen interesting and over the coming weeks we will feature the residents of other townlands from Danny’s notebook. The featured photo above is the railway underpass on the Ballyverneen road to the Pink Rock [known locally as the “County Road Bridge”. ]
Please send any corrections, additional information, or queries to glenmore.history@gmail.com. Thanks to all the readers who have provided additional information and we will continue to update as more information is provided.
Dr. Kathleen Moore Walsh