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The Prosecution of Glenmore Wedding Guests in 1917

On the 1st of November 1917 the provisions of the Motor Restriction Order came into effect. Britain was engaged in the First World War and the Easter Rising of 1916 was still fresh in the minds of authorities. Twenty-seven days later three persons who drove to a Glenmore wedding were arrested and tried for breaching the Motor Restriction Order of 1917. It is doubtful that when the bride and groom were preparing for their wedding that they had any idea that their wedding would make the news in such a fashion.

Although it was stated in the Order that there was a “need for economy in the use of petrol,” the debates in the House of Commons 7 months earlier, on the 24th of April 1917, revealed that the MP’s were concerned about the number of convictions for driving at excessive speed against drivers going and coming from race meetings. It was noted that a feeling existed in the country against the use of motor cars for purely pleasure purposes at a time of national crisis. The Home Secretary was asked to take immediate steps to prohibit the supply of petrol to owners of motor cars using them for purely pleasure purposes. The Home Secretary responded that the Petrol Control Committee had already ceased issuing licenses for the supply of petrol to private cars not being used for purpose of “national importance.” (HC Deb, 24 April 1917, vol. 92, c. 2223)

The Motor Restriction Order 1917 provided that no petrol or petrol substitute could be used for the purpose of driving any motor vehicle or motor boat except as authorised in the Order within the terms of a motor spirit license issued by the Petrol Control Department of the Board of Trade. Allowed uses included: the conveyance of a person or goods to or from the nearest railway where no other means of conveyance was reasonably available: for the purpose of a profession, trade or business; for necessary household affairs; funerals; and life saving purposes etc.

On the 28th of November 1917 Glenmore Parish Priest, Father Holohan, married Mary Hynes, of Aylwardstown, Glenmore and Edward Whyte, a farmer from Coolnamuck, Inistioge. The best man at the wedding was Thomas Flood and the bridesmaid was Bridget Dreehan. The bride was the daughter of Aylwardstown farmer, Martin Hynes and his wife Anastasia Hynes née Aylward. The bride was born on the 15th of January 1887. The bridegroom was Edward Whyte the son of Thomas Whyte and his wife Catherine Whyte née Meany. The bridegroom was born the 28th of November 1884.

The New Ross Standard reported on Friday the 14th of December 1917 that at the New Ross Petty Sessions three wedding guests were prosecuted for having motor cars at the Whyte-Hynes wedding in Glenmore. The magistrates hearing the cases were Captain D.G. Howlett (presiding) and Arthur J. Doyle and Pat Bolger. The defendants were Joseph Lynch a veterinary surgeon from New Ross, P. A. Jeffares, New Ross, motor and engineering company, Peter Gahan, of Priory-street, of New Ross. All three defendants were represented by Solicitor J.R. Colfer.

Head Constable O’Connell, of Thomastown, prosecuted the cases and Constable Healey, of Glenmore was the arresting officer.  Constable Healey testified that on the 28th of November he was on duty at Graiguenakill, Glenmore when he saw Joseph Lynch driving a wedding party from Glenmore Village to Aylwardstown, a distance of about two miles. In Lynch’s car was the bride, bridegroom, best man and bridesmaid. Afterwards he saw Lynch with the car at the house of the bride’s father, Martin Hynes, in Aylwardstown. Constable Healey told Lynch that he had committed an offence. Lynch replied that he was not aware that he had committed an offence. Constable Healey asked for Lynch’s petrol license which Lynch admitted he forgot in another coat. Head Constable O’Connell conceded that prior to the court date Lynch had produced the petrol license. After a lengthy argument concerning the summons being faulty Head Constable O’Connell clarified that the offence was for the defendant “using motor spirit” and asked the magistrates to “inflict a substantial penalty.”

Solicitor Colfer then began a spirited defence arguing that there was no offence. Lynch was a friend of both parties and was an ordinary guest at the wedding. The wedding party hired two motor cars for the wedding, but when they came out of the Glenmore church the hired drivers were not there. The wedding party was standing in front of the church “surrounded by a crowd of beggars wanting gratuities, and the position of the bride and bridegroom and their friends was awkward with this crowd around them.”

Danny Dowling during an interview of Mrs. Alice Power née Curran, of Jamestown, Glenmore recorded the local practice of theCee Caw.” School children and beggars would congregate at the Glenmore Church gates at weddings because money would be thrown into the air. When the money was fired into the air it often resulted in abuse and fisticuffs as all the assembled would scramble after the money. This practice continued in Glenmore until the early 1950’s. A review of the Glenmore parish register revealed that there was another wedding held earlier on the 28th of November 1917. John Connolly, a laborer from Rochestown, Glenmore married Bridget Roche of Scartnamore, Glenmore. Thus with two weddings on the same day it is likely there was a large group assembled for the Cee Caw when the Whyte-Hynes wedding party emerged from the church.

Lynch volunteered to drive the wedding party to the Hynes’s home. Solicitor Colfer argued that any reasonable person would have done so including the magistrates. Solicitor Colfer also pointed out that the Order only came out in October, and “a person would want to carry around with him in his car a regular lawyer’s library to try to comply with the regulations.” “Surely the fact of a man taking to himself a wife might reasonably be looked upon as something done in connection with household affairs.”

Solicitor Colfer then drew the magistrates’ attention to a paragraph in the Irish Times on the previous day.  The Athlone magistrates had a similar case where a person was charged with violating the Order when he attended a wedding. The Athlone magistrates dismissed the case. Solicitor Colfer also noted a similar case in Bray which also resulted in the magistrates dismissing the case. “In those cases the magistrates had shown common sense in refusing to convict, and refusing to be gulled into turning people into criminals for a breach of those stupid and ill promulgated orders.”  With the decisions of two other courts before the New Ross magistrates, he asked the magistrates to exercise common sense and put a reasonable construction on the case. Solicitor Colfer concluded that it would be a disgrace to convict his client, and “under the circumstances of the case the magistrates would be failing in their duty if they did not mark their disapproval of such proceedings by dismissing the case.”

Head Constable O’Connell was not deterred and argued that he had authority that attending a wedding is not a necessary household affair, but upon Solicitor Colfer demanding the legal authority it was not produced. One of the magistrates pointed out to the Head Constable that the Order allowed persons to use petrol to attend funerals. Ultimately the Chairman announced that the case against Defendant Lynch was dismissed on the summons. The Head Constable not taking the hint replied that he would bring the case again on a new summons within a fortnight.

The other cases arising from the same wedding were called and the Chairman said he thought that the best thing to do was to dismiss the other cases. Head Constable O’Connell demanded to know on what grounds the magistrates were dismissing without hearing any evidence. The Chairman replied that the summonses were wrongly stated. The Head Constable O’Connell requested the magistrates to state a case. Solicitor Colfer interjected, “This thing is becoming absurd. You would really think those men were being tried for their lives.”

The Head Constable called Constable Collins, of Glenmore, who testified he was on duty at Graiguenakill on the 28th of November and saw a motor car belonging to the New Ross Motor and Engineering Co., containing 5 ladies driven by the driver. They went in the direction of where the wedding was held. Constable Healy was recalled and gave evidence that on the same date he saw a motor belonging to the New Ross Engineering Co. containing Messrs.  John Flood, The Rower; John Hynes, Aylwardstown; Richard Hanrahan, New Ross; and John Meaney, Inistioge. He afterwards saw the car at Mr. Hynes’ house. The explanation the defendants gave was that they didn’t know they were committing an offence. Mr. Colfer said he had very little to say in those eases beyond what he had said in the case of Mr. Lynch. He stated that it was really absurd to accuse people of criminally breaking a law of which they had no knowledge “and it would be a monstrous thing to inflict fines in such cases.”

The Chairman announced that the bench had decided to dismiss the cases. Head Constable asked on what grounds the cases were being dismissed and asked the court to state a case. The magistrates refused to state a case. Undeterred Head Constable O’Connell queried the grounds on which the magistrates refused to state a case. Mr. Bolger, J.P. interjected and reminded the Head Constable that it was not necessary for the magistrates to state their reasons for dismissing the cases. According to the newspaper article the magistrates then dismissed the cases “on the merits” rather than on a defect in the summons, and thereby ensured that the defendants could not be subject to another prosecution from the zealous Head Constable arising from having motor cars at the Whyte-Hynes wedding.

A quick review of newspapers in Britain revealed that in 1917 most of the arrests under the Order reported in the newspapers were for people driving to racing events.

The Irish Petty Sessions Court drawing (c) Illustrated News (1853).

Dr. Kathleen Moore Walsh

The Glenmore Steam Ship (1897-1908)

A reader from Indiana recently came across a turn of the 20th century stern paddle wheel steam ship named Glenmore. He wondered if the original owners or builders may have been natives of Glenmore, Co. Kilkenny.

The Glenmore was built in 1897 in Jeffersonville, Indiana by the Howard shipyard. Jeffersonville, Indiana is on the Ohio river near Paducah, Kentucky. The Howard shipyard was founded by James Howard in 1834. The company was owned by the Howard family until shortly before World War II. After the war, it became known as the Jeffersonville Boat and Machine Company and later it became Jeffboat. The company was the largest inland shipbuilder in the United States and the second-largest builder of river barges in the United States before it closed in 2018.

Built as a packet ship, the Glenmore was originally named the John W. Thomas and she plied the Ohio river carrying mail, passengers and freight between Evansville, Indiana and Paducah, Kentucky for the Louisville and Evansville Packet Co . At some point the John W. Thomas was renamed Glenmore (according to the University of Wisconsin virtual library), and she was named after a popular bourbon. The Glenmore Distillery Company was established by two men named Thompson in 1901 at Owensboro, Kentucky.

Glenmore (c. 1904) Ohio River at Tell, Indiana (original Public Library of Cincinnati & Hamilton County)

In May 1908 the Glenmore was at Paducah, Kentucky and put up for sale.  The Messenger-Inquirer of Owensboro, Kentucky reported on 15 May 1908 that Captain George Block, of St. Louis was in Louisville to inspect the 500 ton Glenmore for purchase. On 23 May 1908 the Kansas City Star reported that the Glenmore was sold to Philip McCrory and Booth Baugham who were to bring the ship to Kansas City, Missouri where it would be refitted and operated as an excursion or party boat on the Missouri River.  The Glenmore was described as being 160 feet in length with a 26.5 foot beam.  She was due to arrive within two weeks and she could carry up to 1,000 persons.

Newspapers of the era in river towns and cities carried commentary concerning her progress up the Mississippi on way to her new home port of Kansas, City. The Kansas City Star of 17 July 1908 reported that the Glenmore left the foot of Main St. carrying a number of important local figures and various civic groups to inspect local flood damage. The Baughham and Pryor Excursions were very popular in 1908. Beer and other liquid refreshments were sold 7 days a week, 7 kinds of gambling were allowed and there was a very popular dance hall on board (Kansas City Star, 3 April 1909). Missouri traditionally did not allow gambling nor did it allow the purchase of alcoholic beverages on Sunday. At St. Louis, and other major centres of population in Missouri, race tracks and other gambling establishments were built in nearby states such as Illinois. It is assumed that the State of Kansas may have also catered for residents in Kansas City, Missouri to engage in drinking and gambling in Kansas. Thus the Glenmore could legally provide gambling and drinking when it operated on the Kansas side of the Missouri river.

Kansas City Star, 20 Sept. 1908

In November 1908 it was widely reported that John J. Pryor, one of the Glenmore owners, and an ex-saloon keeper, was charged with operating gambling devices on the Glenmore. John J Pryor, was a colourful character, who was charged with murder in 1907 and his trial collapsed. (Kansas City Star, 7 November 1908). It is assumed that he was charged because he operated the devices within the jurisdiction of the State of Missouri or on the Missouri side of the river. The Glenmore operated for one season as an excursion or party boat on the Missouri River. When the Glenmore was being put up for the winter it was discovered that her hull was unsafe. No newspaper accounts report whether she was purchased in a poor state or whether her excursions on the flooded Missouri may have damaged her hull. She was taken to Harlem, Missouri where $5,000 was spent fitting her with a new hull. She was placed on cribbing and in early March 1909 just as the work on her new hull was being finished high flood water swept away her cribbing. She fell into 12 feet of water stern first. Her boilers fell into her hold causing her upper works to collapse (St. Louis Globe-Democrat, 12 March 1909).

Although it was originally hoped that she might be raised and saved, it soon became apparent that the damage was too extensive. Her estimated value at the time she sank in 1909 was $19,000 (University of Wisconsin, Digital Library, “Glenmore (Packet, 1905-1909)”). Undaunted the newspapers soon carried reports that the Glenmore owners had purchased the Uncle Sam to replace the Glenmore.

No links could be discovered between the builders or owners of the steamer, Glenmore or the owners of the Glenmore Distillery in Kentucky and Glenmore, Co. Kilkenny, Ireland. However, we do know that one of Danny’s great-great uncles, Nicholas Murphy, resided near Kansas City, Kansas in the early 1900’s. Did Nicholas Murphy ever see the Glenmore or take an excursion on her in 1908? We shall never know, but we might ponder what a man who had not seen his native parish of Glenmore for over 50 years may have thought if he saw the Glenmore ship. Thanks John for bringing the steamer Glenmore to our attention.

The featured broadside photo of Steamer Glenmore, Ohio River, photo taken at Madison, Indiana by Flora, Hubert M, (1904) Glenmore. Retrieved from the Digital Public Library of America, http://digital.cincinnatilibrary.org/cdm/ref/collection/p16998coll28/id/10781.

The photo of the docked Glenmore Riverboat was taken about (1904) at Tell, Indiana. Retrieved from the Digital Public Library of America, http://digital.cincinnatilibrary.org/cdm/ref/collection/p16998coll28/id/10782. Original in the Public Library of Cincinnati and Hamilton County

Dr. Kathleen Moore Walsh

The Glenmore Football Club: The Trials and Tragedy of the 1906 County Kilkenny Gaelic Football Champions

It is not yet known when the first Gaelic football team was established in Glenmore. Prior to 1890 there were few newspaper articles concerning sports and most of the earliest accounts of football matches appear to have been written and submitted to newspapers by the teams. However, in petty session records commencing in about 1887 there are several references to Glenmore men being charged with assaults that occurred coming home from football matches. Unfortunately, there are no details provided in the newspaper accounts to indicate whether the men were returning from attending a Gaelic football match where a Glenmore team played. According to the GAA Kilkenny Bible (2011, p. 56) in the first half of the twentieth century Glenmore won 15 Senior County Football Championships and 3 Junior County Football Finals. Glenmore won its first Senior County Football Championship in 1906 although the final was actually played on 5 May 1907. Thanks to the sports columns that began appearing in newspapers at the turn of the century we also know that by 1908 Glenmore had a Senior, Junior and “Schoolboy” teams. Glenmore was a recognised Gaelic Football powerhouse in County Kilkenny.

From the newspaper accounts it appears that GAA clubs in the early decades of the twentieth century engaged in fundraising by hosting tournaments among other activities. To entice teams to a tournament medals or jerseys were advertised and provided for the winning team members. On the 31st of July 1904 a “highly successful tournament” took place at Glenmore (The Waterford News and Star, 5 Aug. 1904). It was held in a field given by Dr. Philips, of Rochestown House (Mount Ida). Two matches were to be held that day. The first was a championship match between Slieverue and Nore Bangers and the other a friendly between Mullinavat and Campile. It was reported that the young and inexperienced men of Slieverue proved that they were equal to their opponent though they did not win.  The Campile team failed to appear for the friendly, so the Glenmore team took to the field to play Mullinavat and the game ended in a draw. The article concluded that the Glenmore Football Club Committee are to be congratulated on the silver medals awarded, the excellent field arrangements and it was noted that the “new extension railway line affords unique facilities to meet in Glenmore” with a field convenient to the Aylwardstown station. Undoubtedly the opening of the railway line through Glenmore aided in allowing Glenmore teams to compete in more matches. One article in 1907 referred to a match being held at “Lucy Rock” Glenmore (Munster Express, 23  Feb. 1907).

Letters to the editor of local newspapers proved a popular vehicle for players and spectators to comment on the matches, issue challenges, appeal to the public, and call for corrective lenses for referees. At the end of 1903 the New Ross Standard printed several letters to the editor which criticised a match that took place in the Rower between neighbouring parishes Tullogher and Glenmore. Glenmore lost and J. Dunphy and J. Grace, the Honorary Secretary and Captain of the Glenmore Football team, sought to appeal the loss. There was also an allegation that they had referred to the Tullogher team as half savages. (New Ross Standard, 25 Dec. 1903). The grudge continued and played out in the letters to the editor in 1904 when the appeal was granted and the re-match was held in Kilkenny on the 24th of April 1904. The language of the time is interesting particularly the use of the word “unmanly” to describe what might be described today as unsportsmanlike conduct.

The newspapers, at that time, were full of reports of appeals of championship match results. Most of these appeals reflect some of the teething problems of the young organisation. It was also not unusual for a team that felt rules had not been followed to refuse to play or to continue to play the match. For example, in 1889 a semi-final match result was appealed. Kells played the Thomas Larkin team in what was thought to be the final. The game was declared not the final and Ballyhale was allowed back into the championship. Kells refused to play Ballyhale, and Ballyhale was awarded the 1889 County Kilkenny Senior Football Championship title.

During the 1906 championship matches, Kilmacow knocked Lamogue (the Senior Football County Champions of 1902, 1903, 1904 and 1905) out of contention. Kilmacow then played Glenmore in a semi-final at Ballyhale on the 20th of January 1907. The account below of the match appeared in the Munster Express on 26 January 1907. Glenmore wore scarlet and green jerseys and fielded the following team: J. Grace (captain), R. Dunphy, J. Dunphy, B. Grace, M. Morrissey, J. Heffernan, J. Power, M. Murpby, R. Reddy, P. Reddy, J. O’Brien, T. Kennedy, M. Hoynes, John Walsh, P. Hanrahan, N. Curran, and P. Morrissey.

[Update: John Grace, of Kilbride (Captain); Richard Dunphy, of Ballyverneen; John Dunphy, Ballyverneen; Bill Grace, of Kilbride….Tom Kennedy (townland unknown)….John Walsh (townland unknown)…Pat Hanrahan, the Village; Nick Curran, the Village…]

Semi-final, Kilmacow vs. Glenmore

Kilmacow won the toss, and got possession from throw in, and scored a point per Reid within two minutes of the start. From the kick out Glenmore got possession, and the ball travelled along the left wing. Murphy making a good run. A free against Kilmacow was taken by John Dunphy, who kicked a beautiful goal. Kilmacow again got down by the good kick in of Byron, Burris, Synntt, Cooke, O’Keeffe and M Walsh, and registered a second point. The play remained for some time in the Glenmore half, until a free brought relief, but Kilmacow came on again and keeping up pressure forced a “fifty,” and soon afterwards a second, but were unfortunate in not making either materialise a score, as the Glenmore defense was too strong. Afterwards Glemore attacked along the right, and Tom Kennedy, handling, had hard luck in hitting one of the goal uprights. From this till the interval Glenmore had the better of the game, and scored a goal and two points per Dunphy, Kennedy, and Brien. The half-time score was: Glenmore—2 goals, 2 points; Kilmacow—2 points.

Kilmacow got possession of the ball on resuming, and made tracks for the Glenmore citadel, and were again unfortunate, as the defence was sound and the ball travelled back. After some mid-field and wing play Glenmore added a point by Kennedy, and shortly afterwards a second by Brien. At this point the men from the Big Glen were undoubtedly holding the whip hand in the game, and the conquerors of Lamogue were rarely ever able to cross the half way. At three quarter time Kilmacow, owing to a dispute originated by an outsider, refused to continue the match. The referee, Mr. D. Hoyne, of the Kilkenny County Team, awarded the match to Glenmore. . . The final score: Glenmore—2 goals, 3 points; Kilmacow—2 points.

The article noted the contribution to the win of the Dunpheys, Currans, Brien, Grace, Kennedy, Morrissey “and some others played with magnificent dash and accuracy. The goal scored by one of the Dunphys from a free was one of the most brilliant pieces of football kicking I ever witnessed. Young John Curran, the junior I believe of the Glenmore boys, deserves a word of praise for the manner in which he held his own amid a team of veterans. After a few years he bids fair to outshine his stalwart brother, Nick, in brilliant play. I still hold to my opinion that it will be Kilkenny’s own fault if they are not the next All Ireland Champions.”

Within a few days the Captain of the Kilmacow team, James Burris, of Gaule’s Mill, wrote a letter to the editor of the Munster Express, taking sole responsibility for the withdrawal of his team. He noted that there were some trips and catching and when he brought to the referee’s attention that a spectator had rushed onto the field and held the hands of one of his men the referee stated that he did not see the occurrences. Burris wanted to assure the public that he was not influenced by any person and his action was not due to cowardice or fear of defeat.

Advert Munster Express 1917

Kilmacow objected and appealed the semi-final, not based on the incident involving a spectator, but rather based on the composition of the Glenmore team. It was reported in the Kilkenny People (2 March 1907) that after a lengthy discussion the Kilkenny County Committee awarded the match to Glenmore, owing to the fact that Kilmacow left the field before the game terminated. Kilmacow gave notice of appeal of this decision to the Leinster Council and the final of the football championship between Glenmore and Kells was set for March 31st at St. James Parkland, Kilkenny with Mr. John Lalor, the Central Leinster Representative, as referee.

The Championship Final, Kells vs. Glenmore

Due to the objection and appeal the final between Kells and Glenmore was not played until 5 May 1907. “Ned of the Hill” reported in the Munster Express on 11 May 1907 that Glenmore prevailed in “one of the hardest fought contests that was witnessed in the Marble City for many a long day. The Boys of the Big Glen well deserved their victory, for they won on sheer merit. The fight was fought out tooth and nail…and the better team unquestionably won.” The referee was praised for his impartiality and at the final whistle the score stood: Glenmore—2 goals, 2 points; Kells—1 goal, 2 points. Ned of the Hill singled out Glenmore players Nick Curran, the Dunphy’s, Grace’s, Reddy’s, Morrissey’s and Tom Kennedy and his colleagues in the front as deserving a word of praise.

In the same newspaper Kilmacow issued a public challenge to Glenmore. Notwithstanding, the fact that Kilmacow refused to continue playing in the semi-final, then filed appeals based on the composition of the Glenmore team, the Kilmacow team wanted to play the Glenmore champions. They stated that the gate receipts, after meeting the costs of medals, could go to charity. It is not known if this challenge was accepted.

The Withholding of the Championship Medals

By the time that the final championship match was held in May 1907 newspapers had already moved on to the regional championships, so very little was written about the match. “Ned of the Hill” published an article in the Munster Express on 2 November 1907 entitled, “Who Won the Kilkenny Football Championships 1906? Kells or Glenmore?” calling attention to the fact that after the normal appeals had been exhausted the Championship medals for the Glenmore team had not been given to the team.

To those Gaels of Kilkenny who are clear sighted this question may sound extravagant, if not humorous. There are those, however, who would deem it debatable; some, in fact, who witnessed the great final struggle in Kilkenny last May; some, may I add, who actually played in that great contest. My apologies, then, to our clear-sighted and honest-hearted Gaels, since I intend offending your sense of justice. I intend making public how it is that the Glenmore champions have so far been refused the County Championship medals for 1906. The exposure of wrong-doing may scandalise the innocent, but it may bring to light the wrong-doers.

I shall begin at the beginning. Glenmore played and beat Kilmacow at Ballyhale last February. Kilmacow objected. The case came before the Kilkenny County Council, D. J. Gorey, Esq., J.P., in the chair. At this meeting D. J. Gorey, Esq., J.P., proclaimed in loud and soul-stirring tones that if Glenmore met Kells in the final Kells, if beaten, would never object. Not those men Kilmacow were objecting to—never. We shall instantly see was D. J. Gorey, Esq., J.P., a man of his word. As it happened, Glenmore and Kells did meet in the final, and Kells came under. D. J. Gorey, Esq., J.P., lodged an objection in hot haste. He lost his case at the home Council, and in hot haste again he appealed to the Leinster Council, which was unanimous in declaring Glenmore legally constituted champions of Kilkenny. Nothing daunted, D. J. Gorey, Esq , J.P., approached in August the highest Council of the Gaels of Ireland with this same objection he had pledged his word at home never to bring forward. This Central Council were again unanimous in declaring Glenmore legally constituted champions of Kilkenny.

A rule of the G.A.A. states that there can be no appeal beyond the Central Council; yet, not later than last week, the County Secretary, Mr. D. O’Donnell, with characteristic good faith to the Chairman, forewarned to the Secretary of the Glenmore F.C., a marvelous document, stating that he cannot hand over the medals as Mr. D. J. Gorey had again objected. What Council has D. J. Gorey, Esq., J.P., now in view? There can be no appeal beyond the Central Council. I wonder has he sought the benign protection of the Crown. Is it possible we may yet read of a long and heated discussion in the English House of Lords on the rules of the G.A.A.? Should not the G.A.A. feel mighty secure and consoled in having as one of its chief advisers a Magistrate of the Crown! No wonder, indeed, the boys of the Big Glen have decided to stay quietly at home this year. No wonder Gaelic football is fast declining in Kilkenny county. To my mind it is high time that the Secretary of the Glenmore Football Club should ask the Central Council to compel D. J. Gorey and Co. to hand over the medals so bravely won.

“Ned of the Hill” reported on 21 September 1907 that the Glenmore football club was “out of fighting line.” He had a sad good-bye from Dick Grace one of Glenmore’s best backs. He and Edward O’Connor, of Ballyfacey, were leaving for the United States. Both stated that they were going to return to Glenmore. Ned reflected that he thought that there was enough “material in Glenmore” to make a championship team and wanted to once again hear the well known rallying cry “Gee Up, Glenmore.” A month later he reported that big sinewy “Tom” Phelan, Mullinahone, a latter day “Matt the Thresher,” was also off to the United States (Munster Express 19 Oct 1907).

Finally, in March 1908 at a meeting of the Kilkenny County Committee the Secretary called attention to the question of providing the County Championship to Glenmore. Mr. Gorey, as representing Kells, apparently having exhausted every avenue of appeal and delay, directed the Secretary to forward the medals to Glenmore. It is not known what, if any, impact the withholding of the championship medals had on the Glenmore players, however it is apparent that several of the Glenmore football team immigrated. The month following the decision to forward the medals, Richard Dunphy, of Ballyverneen, Glenmore, tragically died at the age of 30.

The death of Richard Dunphy had a profound impact on the remaining team members. According to the death register Richard was only ill for four weeks and died at home with his brother at his side. In an obituary written by an unnamed team mate it was stated that when the Glenmore Football team needed help Richard was home like a streak of lightening. He worked in England as an Excise Officer and several times he travelled home from England to help the Glenmore boys win the 1906 championship. “He was our guiding star and light.” (Munster Express, 18 April 1908). It is believed that Richard was one of the players that both Kilmacow and Kells named in their objections.

“Ned of the Hill” in September 1908 revealed that “the boys of the Big Glen met during last week to reorganise their football club. There was cause for both joy and sadness in the meeting. The county champions of 1906–all that was left of them—were glad to renew the old committee that heralded woe to many a team up the county. But some of its bravest and best were missing. Emigration, and alas! even death, had told the old, harrowing tale. The proceedings were marked by hopeful enthusiasm. Arrangements were made for weekly practice matches and means of bettering the unsatisfactory condition of the funds. The following officers were elected: President, Rev. Father Crotty, C.C., Glenmore: captain, N. Curran: vice-captain, John Grace hon. sec., N. Curran; committee, J. Dunphy, M. Murphy, T. Morrissey, M. Hoynes, P. Reddy, P. Hanrahan.”

Special thanks to Pat Dowling for the photo of the 1905/1906 team. Pat said that the team photo came from a post card. At the bottom it states Winners of the Hugginstown Medal Tournament 1905 and Co. Kilkenny Football Champions 1906. If anyone can identify the first names of the players, their townlands, any of the men in the photo or can identify where Lucy Rock is in Glenmore, please comment below or email glenmore.history@gmail.com to update the information.

Dr. Kathleen Moore Walsh

A few readers asked for a larger copy of the team photo. One reader believes the team captain is John Grace, of Kilbride. His brother Richard Grace was a teacher in Ringville School, and another brother Bill Grace was actually the player that emigrated to the US in 1908 where he sadly passed away within a few years.

John Grace, of Kilbride, Captain, holding the football.

Sports Update

Kilbride Cricket

On the 4th of July 2020 we posted an article highlighting the Kilbride Cricketers as recorded by Danny Dowling. The post also sought to identify the Glenmore weight throwing champion who was recorded by Paddy Kennedy (1922-1997) of Rathinure, Glenmore, in the National Folklore Collection.  The post  is available at https://glenmore-history.com/glenmore-19th-century-sports-cricket-and-weight-throwing/

A helpful reader suggested a 2006 book by Michael O’Dwyer entitled, The History of County Kilkenny Cricket: The Forgotten Game. The book was located in the local Kilkenny library branch in Ferrybank, in the reference section, however, it could not be accessed because of COVID 19 restrictions. Martin Gahan came to the rescue and lent his copy of the book. The book was read in its entirety in the hopes of finding any reference to the Kilbride team or indeed any mention of Glenmore or players from Glenmore.

Although there is no reference to Kilbride or Glenmore, it was an interesting read explaining the rise and decline of cricket in Kilkenny by highlighting the political realities of the time.  A concise review of the book is available at  https://www.historyireland.com/20th-century-contemporary-history/the-history-of-cricket-in-county-kilkenny-the-forgotten-game/.                           

After discussing the book with Danny Dowling he suggested that his brother Dick Dowling might shed some light on cricket and Glenmore sports in general. Dick recalled hearing that the Glenmore cricket players travelled to Mount Juliet to play and that many teams were sponsored by landlords. It was suggested that the Kilbride players may have played on a team sponsored by a local landlord. Dick also pointed out the close link between Glenmore and Wexford teams in other sports such as hurling and thought that the cricket players may have played for a New Ross Team. The book was searched again but the list of Bessborough team players did not provide an obvious link to any known local cricket player.  Special thanks to Martin Gahan and Dick Dowling. The quest for information concerning the Kilbride Cricketers continues.

Weight Throwing in Glenmore

In terms of the weight throwing an article appeared in the Munster Express on Saturday the 25th of August 1900 stating that Glenmore was to participate in the New Ross athletic events and there was a “big practice every evening at weight-throwing” in two townlands in Glenmore. One group met at the Aylwardstown forge and the other at Kilbride.

The 1900 article also indicates that the GAA was to be revived again in Glenmore parish. The author stated, I know Captain Ned Hartley will be highly delighted at this news; he is always in high spirits when taking an active part with the dashing young Glenmorians on the football field.” The term “revived again” appears to suggest that the GAA fell out of favour in Glenmore prior to the turn of the twentieth century.

Gaelic Football in Glenmore

Given the coverage of sports in media today, it may be surprising to a lot of people that prior to 1890 very few sporting events were covered in newspapers. Commencing in the 1890’s newspapers began to print more and more articles about a variety of sports and eventually there were dedicated sports columns. For several years after the turn of the twentieth century, a sports column by “Ned of the Hill” featured in the Munster Express. What may also be surprising is that Glenmore was a Gaelic Football stronghold in the first half of the twentieth century. According to the GAA Kilkenny Bible (2011) from 1900 to 1950 Glenmore won 15 Senior County Football Championships and 3 Junior County Football Finals. “Ned of the Hill” dubbed the Glenmore Football players “the men of the Big Glen.” Thanks to Ned’s column there is a public record of the withholding of the County Kilkenny Championship medals from the “men of the Big Glen.” The medals were not awarded until 1908, just as one of the players fell ill and tragically died. This Sunday we will post “The Glenmore Football Club: The Trials and Tragedy of the 1906 County Kilkenny Gaelic Football Champions.”

Dr. Kathleen Moore Walsh

Memories of Glenmore: Late 1960’s Through 1970’s

Danny Dowling over the years corresponded with a great number of people all over the world with Glenmore connections. One of his correspondents was Margurerite Ennett, of Cappagh who now lives in Perth, Australia. Danny still loves to hear from people, and this week we received an email from Margurerite’s brother, Jimmy Ennett, who shared a number of his memories of being brought up in Glenmore in the late 1960’s through 1970’s. With Jimmy’s permission we are going to share his memories and ask others to help record information concerning Glenmore in the 1960’s and 1970’s by commenting, providing dates, names, and sharing their memories of Glenmore at that time.

Margurerite and Jimmy were two of the six children of Pat and Mai Ennett, of Cappagh, Glenmore. After Jimmy left Glenmore he taught at Beneavin College in Dublin from 1973 to 1980.  Jimmy migrated to Australia with his wife and family to undertake a PhD scholarship in Chemistry at the Australian National University in Canberra. The family settled in Canberra, Jimmy worked in Government science areas, and he retired a few years back. Jimmy wrote that he is very interested in the parish history and has great memories of Glenmore.

School

Jimmy started in the Glenmore National School in 1954, and actually moved to the new school in 1958, when he was in 3rd class.  Teachers in his time were Master Murphy, Mrs Murphy, Miss Cunningham, and later Miss Kearney. There was a heavy emphasis on religion – which Jimmy notes, at the time, we thought was normal for a state funded school. Jimmy still has an old school photo taken around 1958 -59.

Altar Boys

When Fr W. Brennan was Parish Priest and Fr Murphy was Curate (late 1950s early 1960s).  Jimmy recalled, “How we loved getting out of school to serve at funeral Masses and Weddings (gave us time out of class)!”

Travelling Shows

Travelling shows that came to Glenmore during this time, generally followed a music hall format, one notable one was Vic Loving’s ‘Talk of the Town.’ Jimmy believes it came over from the UK. The travelling shows set up in the village, and concerts were held in the village hall. There was also a local dramatic arts group who put on plays from time to time.  Jimmy in trying to recall some of the people involved in the local drama group came up with some names: Mick Mac? one of the Halligans (Mickey?), a Murray ? who taught at Ballyfacy school.

Cinema

Bill Walsh (Village, Cappagh) used to show movies also at the village hall (cinema) next door to Danny Dowling’s house. In those days, there were lots of cowboy movies, including some good ones such as ‘High Noon’. However, one winter the roof collapsed after a heavy snowfall (no one inside!).  Bill moved his movies to the ‘new’ hall (old school).  However, the movies petered out around the early 1960s.

Fete

The Glenmore Fete was an annual event over a few weeks at the Scough Bridge up to early 1960s(?). The Fete had entertainment such as merry-go-rounds, swing-boats, raffles etc, and even an illegal shebeen – which was raided one night by Garda. [This raid was mentioned in an earlier post https://glenmore-history.com/whats-a-shebeen/ and is believed to have occured in 1961 or 1962.]

During Jimmy’s time Glenmore also had a hurling tournament involving other parishes – including Wexford parish. Jimmy recalls, “As far as I’m aware, there were good rewards, such as set of watches, for the winners.  I suspect the GAA authorities were not totally enamoured by this, as it smacked of professionalism!”

Creamery

Creamery Book 1972

Jimmy remembers farmers queued to deliver milk in milk cans or churns to Glenmore creamery.  Bill Walsh and  ? Forrestal often took in the milk at the stage, marked the creamery book etc. Glenmore had its own brand of butter. Jimmy believes the creamery at Lochcullen (near Kilmacow) was also part of the same cooperative.

Other Recollections

The Hunt (both Mullinavat Harriers and McCalmont’s Mt. Juliet)

Church attendance – different sides for men and women; plus reading from the altar each parishioner’s contribution to Easter and Christmas dues!

Shops – Eily Heffernan’s, Fluskey’s and Hanrahan’s. Flusky’s had the Post Office and phone exchange in the shop. Phone exchange operator knew all that was happening in the parish!

Back of Creamery Book

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The featured photo of the VW Bug at the beach was taken by Tom Arrowsmith (London) and is available on “Unsplashed.”

Kathleen Moore Walsh

Glenmore 1916: Stolen Butter, a Mysterious Death, a local WWI Pilot and the Wrong Man Summoned to Court

Recently a reader sent a link to a file in the National Archives concerning a claim made by the Glenmore Co-operative to the military and then to the Property Losses (Ireland) Committee 1916. This Committee operated for ten months processing claims for property losses incurred due to the 1916 Rising. In a nutshell 9 boxes of Glenmore Co-op butter were stolen from the Amien St. railway station [Connolly Station] in Dublin on or about the 24th of April 1916. In attempting to locate newspaper articles concerning the stolen butter we came across a number of newspaper articles concerning Glenmore events and people in turbulent 1916.

Stolen Glenmore Butter

On 22 April 1916, 16 boxes of Glenmore Co-op butter were handed to the Dublin and SE Railway at Aylwardstown, Glenmore. The following day the consigned butter arrived at the Amien St. Station, Dublin. It was Easter and the butter could not be transferred to the Great Northern Railway that day. On Easter Monday (24 April 1916) the British Military ordered the Railway Company’s staff to leave and the military took possession of the station. When the staff left the full consignment of butter was there, but when the staff returned 9 boxes of butter were missing. The railway informed Glenmore Co-op that the military commandeered the butter.

On 28 July 1916 Glenmore Co-op’s solicitor, P.A. Murphy, of O’Connell St., Waterford wrote to the Major General, of the Irish Command, outlined the above facts, and demanded £35.2.0 to cover the loss of the 9 boxes of butter. The military refused to accept any responsibility in the matter and referred the claim to the Property Losses (Ireland) Committee 1916. James O’Donovan, the Glenmore Creamery manager, duly filed a claim on 14 August. He stated in the claim that 9 boxes of butter consigned to C. Coats, upper Arthur St., Belfast were part of a consignment of 16 boxes and were damaged by the military authorities whilst in possession of the Amien St. Station, Dublin.  In November 1916 the Property Losses Committee recommended that the claim of £35.2.0 should be paid to the Glenmore Co-op Creamery for the “looting” of the boxes of butter by “insurgents.”

This link will take you to the Property Losses (Ireland) Committee 1916 file held by the National Archives concerning the Glenmore butter claim.  http://centenaries.nationalarchives.ie/centenaries/plic/results.jsp?surname=&location=&title=&business_name=Glenmore%20Cooperative%20Dairy%20Society%20Limited&search=Search

The Mystery Surrounding the Death of Peter Forristal, the Mill, Graiguenakill (1889-1916)

In the New Ross Standard on Friday, the 19th of May 1916, on page 6, an article details the annual meeting of the Glenmore Co-operative Creamery where the accounts for 1915 were approved. Items discussed during the meeting included the recent purchase of a cattle weigh bridge and shedding for storage at the Creamery as well as the heightened shipping costs. The increased shipping costs were due to the enormous loss of ships as a result of the German submarine policy. Nothing concerning the Glenmore butter loss in April 1916 was mentioned.

In the column to the left of the Glenmore Creamery Report is the following little statement placed within farming advertisements. “Returned Home—Some young men from the district who were at business in Dublin have returned home during the week for a rest after the recent disturbances in the capital,” (New Ross Standard, Friday 19 May 1916, p. 6).

Just below the Glenmore Creamery article is the following article regarding Peter Forristal, of the Mill, Graiguenakill.

“NEW ROSS MAN MISSING. SUPPOSED TO BE DROWNED. The river at New Ross was dragged on Wednesday in search of the body of Peter Forrestal, believed to be drowned on the previous night. He was son of Mr. P. Forrestal, farmer, Ballyverneen, near Glenmore, and came up the river on a small boat on Tuesday with fish for New Ross. In the early part of the day it seems he took some drink and became noisy in the street. He was arrested and was detained in the police barracks until about five o’clock in the evening. After being let out he was seen down round the quay, and at about 9:30 that night some men at the Grand Canal steps heard a noise in the water, followed by what appeared to be a groan. Captain Ryder and others made an exhaustive search, but no trace, of the body was found up to Wednesday afternoon. During Wednesday a further search was made.   It is surmised he went aboard the vessel “Tom Raner,” and on trying to reach his boat fell into the water one of his brothers was drowned some years ago off a boat coming up the river. The sincerest sympathy is felt with his parents and family” (New Ross Standard, Friday 19 May 1916, p. 6).

The following week the New Ross Standard reported that the body was recovered and corrected a lot of the information it incorrectly reported on the 19th.

“NEW ROSS DROWNING CASE. The body of the young man Peter Forrestal, of Graiguenakill, who drowned at New Ross in the early part of last week, was found at Garranbehy sometime on Monday morning by Patk. Fitzgerald, High-street, and John Doyle, Irishtown, fishermen.  Sergeant Byrne, Rosbercon, communicated with the Coroner for South Kilkenny, but he happened to be away, from home, and Messrs. H.R. Hamilton, J.P., and A. J. Doyle, J.P., acted in his absence, and after hearing the particulars decided that an arrest was not necessary. It is surmised that the deceased lost his life whilst endeavouring to get into his boat from a coal vessel anchored in the harbour at 9 of 9:30 o’clock in the night.   It is stated that on that evening he had his tea at Rosbercon.  It appears he had not been at home for the past three months, and came to New Ross on that morning on a small boat. The sincerest sympathy is felt with his parents and family” (New Ross Standard, Friday 26 May 1916).

Peter Forristal was born on 27 March 1889 and was the son of Patrick Forristal and Margaret Forristal née Cardiff. He was a brother of William Forristal who was one of the Glenmore men who drowned in 1899. See, https://glenmore-history.com/a-double-drowning-at-rochestown-point-in-1899/ .  No inquest was held and no death cert was filed for Peter Forristal in 1916. No further information was provided concerning where Peter Forristal had been in the three months prior to his death or concerning the short statement on the same page of the newspaper that young men from the district who were at business in Dublin returned home (during the week of the drowning) for a rest after the recent disturbances in the capital. No clarity is provided regarding how or why Peter Forristal was identified as the person who went into the river at New Ross on the 16th of May. Apparently there were no eye witnesses. Witnesses heard sounds and somehow Peter Forristal was identified as a person who was supposed drowned. The newspapers of the time are full of lists of men who were detained and arrested across the country after the Rising, yet there is no information as to why Peter Forristal was released from custody hours before his death if he had been, in fact, arrested earlier in the day.

The articles reporting the drowning are not similar to other drownings reported in the newspaper in the early years of the 20th century. The Peter Forristal articles lack the details found in other drownings reported. For example, who identified the body as being Peter Forristal? Perhaps the readers were expected to read between the lines, or perhaps the restrictions on the newspapers after the Rising were such that newspapers could not query deaths of persons released from police custody who end up in a river.

Irish Independent, Thur. 7 Sept. 1916–SITUATIONS VACANT.

 WANTED, Man to follow Threshing Engine, also Man to take charge of Threshing Mill, for season. Apply to Glenmore Co-operative Threshing Society, Glenmore, Co. Kilkenny, stating Wages and qualifications.

New Ross Standard, Fri. 11 Aug. 1916–A One Bicycle Crash

POLICEMAN INJURED Whilst Const. Collins, Glenmore, was cycling from Glenmore to Mullinavat last week his bicycle got caught in a rut in the road and he was pitched forward and rendered temporarily unconscious. He was attended by the priest and doctor and was taken to hospital.

Mistaken Identity

Danny Dowling has explained that due to the number of people in the parish with the same name nick names were bestowed and whole families often had surnames that were not their proper surname. For example, Jim Brien was actually Jim Fitzgerald. Danny’s notebooks are full of notations that “his real name” was … In Glenmore all Whelans are Phelans. The following case reported in the newspaper in 1916 involved John Whelan, of Mullinahone being summoned for something he did not do.

“CASE AT NEW ROSS When the name of John Whelan, Mullinahone, Glenmore, for being drunk and disorderly was called at the New Ross Petty Sessions, a young man came forward on the witness table, and said that he was not the man at all. He said he had been served with a summons for the offence. Sergeant O’Sullivan—This is not the man at all that was drunk and disorderly.  The man gave his name as John Whelan, of Mullinahone. A Glenmore constable gave evidence, that be served the summons on John Whelan, the man who appeared in court. Mr. Whelan—I am not the man at all, and it has caused me great inconvenience to come here. District Inspector McLean—We must only withdraw the prosecution. Mr. Whelan said there was no other man of that name in Mullinahone, and Sergeant O’Sullivan said he would know the man that was drunk and disorderly if he saw him. Mr. Griffin, R.M. (to Mr. Whelan) It was very nice of you to come to the court to-day. You showed great respect for the court by coming. We will dismiss the case on the merits. It must be understood that we are not blaming the police at all. They were led into this error by another person. They issued the summons on the name that was given to them.” (New Ross Standard, Fri. 1 Sept. 1916)

Glenmore WWI Pilot: Lt. Michael Keegan

In our post on 15 February 2020 we highlighted Mick Keegan, who ranaway as a teenager to join the army, became a WWI Veteran and Ross Publican. The post was based on the 1980 interview Danny Dowling recorded of Dan Doyle concerning his time on the railway. Dan Doyle related the story of Mick Keegan who was the son of the Aylwardstown, Glenmore stationmaster. In 1916 three articles concerning Mick Keegan were found in the New Ross Standard. Here is the link to the 15 February 2020 post HAPPY BIRTHDAY DANNY! (containing Mick Keegan, from Runaway to WWI Veteran and Ross Publican.)

British Library Newspaper Archive

The first of the articles was published on 12 May 1916. Michael Keegan, the son of Mr. Keegan, stationmaster, Glenmore received a commission as lieutenant. It reported “he has been a member of the Flying Corps, and has been several times mentioned in despatches for his bravery and efficiency.” The second article appeared on 6 October 1916 and announced his forthcoming marriage to Miss Brigid Doran, the Quay, New Ross. Although it was a personal announcement the majority of the article centred on his military exploits. “Lieutenant Keegan who is a member of the Royal Flying Corps, was favourably mentioned in despatches and warmly complimented by General French, for his pluck and bravery during his flying expeditions in connection with the war, and was awarded the Military Cross. He also won several cups as a crack shot in the army.” The last article was published on 15 December 1916 and stated that his marriage had taken place that week.

Special thanks to Veronica for sharing the link to the National Archive file concerning the 1916 claim for 9 boxes of Glenmore butter.

Special thanks to Jacqueline Walsh for the old photo of the Waterford Creamery c. 1922.

Dr. Kathleen Moore Walsh