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Glenmore Goats, Faggot Cutting and Other Miscellaneous Notes

Over the years Danny Dowling recorded a wide variety of interesting and sometimes unusual facts concerning various people, places and events in Glenmore and other areas of the Southeast of Ireland. Below are fifteen notes primarily taken from the last dozen notebooks that have been transcribed. We hope that while so many readers are housebound in the current pandemic that these notes might bring a smile, start a discussion, jog a memory or provide a little distraction.

Glenmore Goats—Goats were owned by almost every Glenmore householder and cottager in the early 1900’s. Small farmers had a couple of goats going with the cows. It was thought that the goats would eat vegetation that would be harmful to cows. A few years after the creamery opened it made an order prohibiting the taking of any milk from farmers who kept goats in the Glenmore Creamery area. Some farmers mixed the goats’ milk with the cows’ milk and brought the mixed milk to the creamery. When the butter was churned the butter was streaky because goats’ butter is very white. [DD Notebook 11, interview of Nicholas Forristal, on 22 Feb. 1974]

Father Crotty’s Housekeeper—When Father Crotty was the parish priest of Glenmore his housekeeper was Minnie McDonald from around Kilkenny City. She and her brother Jim McDonald worked for Fr. Crotty. In 1920 they went with him to his next assignment in Clogh. [DD Notebook 12, interview of Mrs. Hannah Dowling on 26 October 1981].

Lemon’s Sweets—Danny wrote in his notebook the following: “Lemon’s Sweets were founded by Mr. Graham Lemon, of Sackville Street, Dublin, in 1842. Lemon’s Sweets are still produced today in 2010.” [DD Notebook 15, miscellaneous notes].

Emigration to Newfoundland—According to Professor Mannion of Memorial University the main emigration period from Ireland to Newfoundland was 1720 to 1735. [DD Notebook 15, conversation with Professor Mannion.]

Coal after WW1—the discharging of coal at the Glenmore Creamery Coal Shed after the First World War, the barrow men got 4 d. per ton. [DD Notebook 16, interview of Nicholas Forristal on 28 September 1974].

Foxy Ned Grace—around 1900 Foxy Ned Grace was working at Patsy Purcell’s (his real name was Walsh) of Ballybrahee, Glenmore. One morning, old Patsy Purcell Walsh asked Foxy Ned if he would go out and pick some spuds. Foxy Ned replied, “ I will if they are hot ones.” [DD Notebook 16, interview of Nicholas Forristal on 28 September 1974].

Maggie Brennan, of Glenmore Village—was a talented musician. She played the melodeon, Jew’s harp mouth organ, and piano. Threshing dances were held in “Lizzie’s Hall” in Glenmore Village following the completion of the threshing of the corn after the harvest and Maggie Brennan often played at the dances. Jim Fluskey often asked Maggie’s sister Bridgie  the day following a dance, “Were you at the racket last night?”  Maggie Brennan married Willie Brown and Bridgie Brennan married John Hunt. [DD Notebook 11, interview of Bridge Brennan Hunt in July 2003].

Lost Hand in Horse Drawn Threshing Machine—Nick Codd was a thatcher, but did not work at it full time. He had a steel crook with a ring in it for a right hand. He lost his hand in a horse drawn threshing machine. He lived in the cottage opposite Mahon’s of Milehouse, Enniscorthy.  [DD Notebook 16, interview of Myles Lambert, of Milehouse, Enniscorthy on 13 Sept. 1974].

Waterford Cinema—the Coliseum Cinema, on Adelphi Quay, closed on the 16th of January 1966. On the site of the Savoy Cinema, on Broad Street, the old Broad Street Cinema stood until it was demolished. Previously Power Brothers Drapiers were located on the site. [DD Notebook 14, miscellaneous notes].

Coal at Slieverue—The Waterford News, published on the 27th of September 1872 reported that explorations were being made today at the Slieverue coal seam by English miners. Some specimens of the coal have been shown in town and have been pronounced to be similar in quality to South Wales coal. [DD Notebook 14]

Arrived in Sydney—In 1850 the S.S. Panama took 153 girls to Australia. Two girls named Roache, aged 18 and 24, from Glenmore were on board. [DD Notebook 13, miscellaneous notes].

WW1 Soldiers from Ross

(1) Doyle, Martin, Reg. No. 6547.
Rank Private, Irish Guards, 2nd Batt.
Killed in action, France on Sept. 18, 1915.
Born New Ross, Co. Wexford

(2) Doyle, Peter, Regimental No. 1458
Rank Private, Royal Irish Regiment, 6th Batt.
Killed in Menton, France on July 13, 1916.
Born New Ross, Co. Wexford. [DD Notebook 21, local men killed in Great War]

Faggot Cutting—Nicky Forristal saw faggots being cut on Carrigcloney hills for filling a brick hole in Robin Irish’s marsh in Carrigcloney (at the Ballyverneen side of the hill). Tommy Power, of Robinstown, and his sons were cutting the faggots. The art of faggot cutting was almost extinct in Nicky’s time but was quite common in his father’s time and earlier. They used to fill the exhausted brick holes with faggots, and then levelled off with a couple feet of earth. [Editorial note—Jack Walsh, of Rathinure, (c. 1893—c. 1988) explained to Peter Walsh, Rathinure that faggots were furze cut and tied into bundles like sheaves. Jack Walsh stated that at one time faggots were used to stabilise the banks of the river at Aylwardstown.] [DD Notebook 20, interview of Nicholas Forristal, Graiguenakill, Glenmore on 18 October 1974].

Ross to Waterford Main Road—The main road from Ross to Waterford was steamrolled in 1912 for the first time. It was tarred for the first time about 1929. [DD Notebook 20, interview of Nicholas Forristal, Graiguenakill, Glenmore on 18 October 1974].

Common Saying—used by the old people around Glenmore, “What comes by nature costs no money.” [DD Notebook 20, miscellaneous notes].

Dr. Kathleen Moore Walsh