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Glenmore 1916: Stolen Butter, a Mysterious Death, a local WWI Pilot and the Wrong Man Summoned to Court
Recently a reader sent a link to a file in the National Archives concerning a claim made by the Glenmore Co-operative to the military and then to the Property Losses (Ireland) Committee 1916. This Committee operated for ten months processing claims for property losses incurred due to the 1916 Rising. In a nutshell 9 boxes of Glenmore Co-op butter were stolen from the Amien St. railway station [Connolly Station] in Dublin on or about the 24th of April 1916. In attempting to locate newspaper articles concerning the stolen butter we came across a number of newspaper articles concerning Glenmore events and people in turbulent 1916.
Stolen Glenmore Butter
On 22 April 1916, 16 boxes of Glenmore Co-op butter were handed to the Dublin and SE Railway at Aylwardstown, Glenmore. The following day the consigned butter arrived at the Amien St. Station, Dublin. It was Easter and the butter could not be transferred to the Great Northern Railway that day. On Easter Monday (24 April 1916) the British Military ordered the Railway Company’s staff to leave and the military took possession of the station. When the staff left the full consignment of butter was there, but when the staff returned 9 boxes of butter were missing. The railway informed Glenmore Co-op that the military commandeered the butter.
On 28 July 1916 Glenmore Co-op’s solicitor, P.A. Murphy, of O’Connell St., Waterford wrote to the Major General, of the Irish Command, outlined the above facts, and demanded £35.2.0 to cover the loss of the 9 boxes of butter. The military refused to accept any responsibility in the matter and referred the claim to the Property Losses (Ireland) Committee 1916. James O’Donovan, the Glenmore Creamery manager, duly filed a claim on 14 August. He stated in the claim that 9 boxes of butter consigned to C. Coats, upper Arthur St., Belfast were part of a consignment of 16 boxes and were damaged by the military authorities whilst in possession of the Amien St. Station, Dublin. In November 1916 the Property Losses Committee recommended that the claim of £35.2.0 should be paid to the Glenmore Co-op Creamery for the “looting” of the boxes of butter by “insurgents.”
This link will take you to the Property Losses (Ireland) Committee 1916 file held by the National Archives concerning the Glenmore butter claim. http://centenaries.nationalarchives.ie/centenaries/plic/results.jsp?surname=&location=&title=&business_name=Glenmore%20Cooperative%20Dairy%20Society%20Limited&search=Search
The Mystery Surrounding the Death of Peter Forristal, the Mill, Graiguenakill (1889-1916)
In the New Ross Standard on Friday, the 19th of May 1916, on page 6, an article details the annual meeting of the Glenmore Co-operative Creamery where the accounts for 1915 were approved. Items discussed during the meeting included the recent purchase of a cattle weigh bridge and shedding for storage at the Creamery as well as the heightened shipping costs. The increased shipping costs were due to the enormous loss of ships as a result of the German submarine policy. Nothing concerning the Glenmore butter loss in April 1916 was mentioned.
In the column to the left of the Glenmore Creamery Report is the following little statement placed within farming advertisements. “Returned Home—Some young men from the district who were at business in Dublin have returned home during the week for a rest after the recent disturbances in the capital,” (New Ross Standard, Friday 19 May 1916, p. 6).
Just below the Glenmore Creamery article is the following article regarding Peter Forristal, of the Mill, Graiguenakill.
“NEW ROSS MAN MISSING. SUPPOSED TO BE DROWNED. The river at New Ross was dragged on Wednesday in search of the body of Peter Forrestal, believed to be drowned on the previous night. He was son of Mr. P. Forrestal, farmer, Ballyverneen, near Glenmore, and came up the river on a small boat on Tuesday with fish for New Ross. In the early part of the day it seems he took some drink and became noisy in the street. He was arrested and was detained in the police barracks until about five o’clock in the evening. After being let out he was seen down round the quay, and at about 9:30 that night some men at the Grand Canal steps heard a noise in the water, followed by what appeared to be a groan. Captain Ryder and others made an exhaustive search, but no trace, of the body was found up to Wednesday afternoon. During Wednesday a further search was made. It is surmised he went aboard the vessel “Tom Raner,” and on trying to reach his boat fell into the water one of his brothers was drowned some years ago off a boat coming up the river. The sincerest sympathy is felt with his parents and family” (New Ross Standard, Friday 19 May 1916, p. 6).
The following week the New Ross Standard reported that the body was recovered and corrected a lot of the information it incorrectly reported on the 19th.
“NEW ROSS DROWNING CASE. The body of the young man Peter Forrestal, of Graiguenakill, who drowned at New Ross in the early part of last week, was found at Garranbehy sometime on Monday morning by Patk. Fitzgerald, High-street, and John Doyle, Irishtown, fishermen. Sergeant Byrne, Rosbercon, communicated with the Coroner for South Kilkenny, but he happened to be away, from home, and Messrs. H.R. Hamilton, J.P., and A. J. Doyle, J.P., acted in his absence, and after hearing the particulars decided that an arrest was not necessary. It is surmised that the deceased lost his life whilst endeavouring to get into his boat from a coal vessel anchored in the harbour at 9 of 9:30 o’clock in the night. It is stated that on that evening he had his tea at Rosbercon. It appears he had not been at home for the past three months, and came to New Ross on that morning on a small boat. The sincerest sympathy is felt with his parents and family” (New Ross Standard, Friday 26 May 1916).
Peter Forristal was born on 27 March 1889 and was the son of Patrick Forristal and Margaret Forristal née Cardiff. He was a brother of William Forristal who was one of the Glenmore men who drowned in 1899. See, https://glenmore-history.com/a-double-drowning-at-rochestown-point-in-1899/ . No inquest was held and no death cert was filed for Peter Forristal in 1916. No further information was provided concerning where Peter Forristal had been in the three months prior to his death or concerning the short statement on the same page of the newspaper that young men from the district who were at business in Dublin returned home (during the week of the drowning) for a rest after the recent disturbances in the capital. No clarity is provided regarding how or why Peter Forristal was identified as the person who went into the river at New Ross on the 16th of May. Apparently there were no eye witnesses. Witnesses heard sounds and somehow Peter Forristal was identified as a person who was supposed drowned. The newspapers of the time are full of lists of men who were detained and arrested across the country after the Rising, yet there is no information as to why Peter Forristal was released from custody hours before his death if he had been, in fact, arrested earlier in the day.
The articles reporting the drowning are not similar to other drownings reported in the newspaper in the early years of the 20th century. The Peter Forristal articles lack the details found in other drownings reported. For example, who identified the body as being Peter Forristal? Perhaps the readers were expected to read between the lines, or perhaps the restrictions on the newspapers after the Rising were such that newspapers could not query deaths of persons released from police custody who end up in a river.
Irish Independent, Thur. 7 Sept. 1916–SITUATIONS VACANT.
WANTED, Man to follow Threshing Engine, also Man to take charge of Threshing Mill, for season. Apply to Glenmore Co-operative Threshing Society, Glenmore, Co. Kilkenny, stating Wages and qualifications.
New Ross Standard, Fri. 11 Aug. 1916–A One Bicycle Crash
POLICEMAN INJURED Whilst Const. Collins, Glenmore, was cycling from Glenmore to Mullinavat last week his bicycle got caught in a rut in the road and he was pitched forward and rendered temporarily unconscious. He was attended by the priest and doctor and was taken to hospital.
Mistaken Identity
Danny Dowling has explained that due to the number of people in the parish with the same name nick names were bestowed and whole families often had surnames that were not their proper surname. For example, Jim Brien was actually Jim Fitzgerald. Danny’s notebooks are full of notations that “his real name” was … In Glenmore all Whelans are Phelans. The following case reported in the newspaper in 1916 involved John Whelan, of Mullinahone being summoned for something he did not do.
“CASE AT NEW ROSS When the name of John Whelan, Mullinahone, Glenmore, for being drunk and disorderly was called at the New Ross Petty Sessions, a young man came forward on the witness table, and said that he was not the man at all. He said he had been served with a summons for the offence. Sergeant O’Sullivan—This is not the man at all that was drunk and disorderly. The man gave his name as John Whelan, of Mullinahone. A Glenmore constable gave evidence, that be served the summons on John Whelan, the man who appeared in court. Mr. Whelan—I am not the man at all, and it has caused me great inconvenience to come here. District Inspector McLean—We must only withdraw the prosecution. Mr. Whelan said there was no other man of that name in Mullinahone, and Sergeant O’Sullivan said he would know the man that was drunk and disorderly if he saw him. Mr. Griffin, R.M. (to Mr. Whelan) It was very nice of you to come to the court to-day. You showed great respect for the court by coming. We will dismiss the case on the merits. It must be understood that we are not blaming the police at all. They were led into this error by another person. They issued the summons on the name that was given to them.” (New Ross Standard, Fri. 1 Sept. 1916)
Glenmore WWI Pilot: Lt. Michael Keegan
In our post on 15 February 2020 we highlighted Mick Keegan, who ranaway as a teenager to join the army, became a WWI Veteran and Ross Publican. The post was based on the 1980 interview Danny Dowling recorded of Dan Doyle concerning his time on the railway. Dan Doyle related the story of Mick Keegan who was the son of the Aylwardstown, Glenmore stationmaster. In 1916 three articles concerning Mick Keegan were found in the New Ross Standard. Here is the link to the 15 February 2020 post HAPPY BIRTHDAY DANNY! (containing Mick Keegan, from Runaway to WWI Veteran and Ross Publican.)
The first of the articles was published on 12 May 1916. Michael Keegan, the son of Mr. Keegan, stationmaster, Glenmore received a commission as lieutenant. It reported “he has been a member of the Flying Corps, and has been several times mentioned in despatches for his bravery and efficiency.” The second article appeared on 6 October 1916 and announced his forthcoming marriage to Miss Brigid Doran, the Quay, New Ross. Although it was a personal announcement the majority of the article centred on his military exploits. “Lieutenant Keegan who is a member of the Royal Flying Corps, was favourably mentioned in despatches and warmly complimented by General French, for his pluck and bravery during his flying expeditions in connection with the war, and was awarded the Military Cross. He also won several cups as a crack shot in the army.” The last article was published on 15 December 1916 and stated that his marriage had taken place that week.
Special thanks to Veronica for sharing the link to the National Archive file concerning the 1916 claim for 9 boxes of Glenmore butter.
Special thanks to Jacqueline Walsh for the old photo of the Waterford Creamery c. 1922.
Dr. Kathleen Moore Walsh
An Unusual Glenmore Memorial: Fr. Thomas Walsh (1911-1945)
Earlier this month as we were recording inscriptions on headstones in the cemetery adjacent to St. James’ Parish Church in Glenmore we came across a number of unusual memorials. Today, we shall highlight Columban Father Thomas Walsh who died on 13 December 1945, aged 34, in Burma. The stone where his name and details appear is located in the centre of the back part of the Glenmore cemetery.
The Walsh Family
From the information on the Glenmore headstone we were able to determine that Fr. Thomas Walsh was born on the 11th of April 1911 at the family home at 5 Thomas Street in Waterford. He was the son of James Walsh and Catherine (Kate) Walsh née O’Sullivan. His parents were married on the 4th of September 1906 at the Rosbercon Chapel. The bride was from Glenballyvalley, Tullogher and her father is recorded as Thomas Sullivan (farmer). The groom was the son of Richard Walsh (farmer). The groom is listed in the marriage records as being a brewery foreman. Danny Dowling on the 20th of July 2020 stated that he believed that the bride was from the Ballyfoyle O’Sullivans.
Fr. Thomas Walsh had two sisters and three brothers. Most of the following information was obtained from obituaries, marriage, birth and death records. The Walsh family resided in the Cathedral parish in Waterford. The boys were educated at Mount Sion C.B.S.
- The eldest of the family was Mary (Sister Madeleine) Walsh (20 Aug. 1907–23 Nov 1974). Mary became a Sister of Mercy. According to her obituary in the Evening Echo (30 Nov. 1974) she trained, as a nurse in the Mercy Hospital, Cork and worked in St. Finbarr’s Hospital from 1939 until her retirement in 1972. She was described as gentle, artistic and musical.
- The second child, was Catherine Walsh (12 Aug. 1908—22 June 1998) who married Walter Cullen (c. 1908—31 May 1998) and had at least three children.
- The third child of the Walsh family was Richard Walsh (16 Sept. 1909—17 Nov. 1996). Richard worked for Customs and Excise and resided in Dublin.
- The fourth child in the family was Fr. Thomas.
- James Walsh (24 Apr. 1912– ? ) was the fifth child and he married Dorothy Connolly, of Douglas Road, Cork on 23 Sept. 1941 in a nuptial ceremony conducted in Irish. James Walsh, or Seamus Breathnach, had an MA in Modern Irish and worked on the translation staff of the Oireachtas, and as a lecturer in the Leinster School of Irish. James or Seamus is the only sibling not listed on the Glenmore headstone.
- The baby of the Walsh family was John Joseph (Sean) Walsh (1 Mar. 1918—30 Oct. 1921). This child tragically died of tubercular meningitis at the age of 3 years, 7 months.
James Walsh, Sr. worked at Strangman Brewery in Waterford. On the birth cert of the eldest child, Mary, he is listed as a weightmaster in the brewery. At the time of Catherine’s birth he is listed as the firemaster at the brewery. By the time of Father Thomas was born his father was listed as “brewery foreman” on his birth records. Danny stated that quite a number of Glenmore men worked at this brewery over the years both full time and as seasonal workers. (For a concise history of Strangman Brewery see, https://waterfordwhisky.com/element/william-strangman/). When Fr. Thomas sent a letter, dated the 23rd of July 1929, seeking to join the Columban Missionary Society, he noted that his father was foreman in Strangman’s brewery and had been employed there for over 40 years.
In this application letter Fr. Thomas also revealed that he was an 18 year old student at Mount Sion Christian Brothers Schools (1915-1929) and described himself as “…healthy as the average boy of my age.” He noted that his eldest brother was in the Civil Service since 1927 and his other brother had completed his leaving certificate in accordance with the pupil teaching scheme. Fr. Thomas reported that he failed the matriculation exam in the summer of 1929. He explained that he failed geography but passed maths, Irish, English and Latin. His parents were not against him entering a Missionary Society, but desired that he should enter St. John’s College in Waterford because, it was “near home, friends, cheap etc.”
The brief biography found in Fr. Thomas’ file held in the Columban archive reveals that he was admitted to the seminary, at St. Columban’s College, Dalgan Park, Galway in 1929 and was ordained a priest on the 21st of December 1935. For his first, and as it transpired only, appointment he was sent to Bhamo, Burma as a member of the Maynooth Mission to China in 1936.
Burma Assignment
Bhamo, Burma, now Myanmor, is in the north of the country. The first efforts to establish Catholicism began in 1856 when French Bishop Paul Bigandet visited the northern region. In 1873, three priests were sent to form a diocese. The mission work stalled due to malaria. Between 1873 -1901 fourteen priests died or became incapacitated due to malaria. The mission was slow to spread in the Kachin populations until 1936 when the first St. Columban Missionaries arrived from Ireland. (Official Catholic Directory 2016, p. 184, Catholic Bishop Conference of Myanmar Yangon).
The Maynooth Mission in 1936 was led by the Right Reverend Mgr. Patrick Usher, of Tullyallen, Co. Louth, who led the “pioneer band of young priests who were specially appointed to this difficult mission field which is considerably larger in extent than the whole of Ireland.” Within this pioneer band of young priests numbering 24 was Rev. Thomas Walsh (Waterford) and Rev. Thomas Murphy (Naas). (Catholic Standard, 5 June 1942). In addition to the difficult climate, missionaries found that each of the hill tribes had its own language, and twelve languages were spoken in the province. (Catholic Standard, 18 Feb. 1949).
After the Maynooth Mission group arrived in Burma, according to a letter written by Mgr. Usher on 13 December 1945, Fr. Thomas Walsh was assigned to a mission station in Namhapalan, sixty miles north of Bhamo. The language of his parish was Kachan. “In a difficult and lonely mission he never showed that he gave his troubles or hardships a thought.” When he met any of the other priests he was full of jokes and good humour in his quiet gentle way “and no joke had a sting in it at another’s expense.” He became fluid in the Kachan language, built a school and dedicated himself to his people.
World War II
In 1942, the Japanese Imperial Army captured Burma which cut off war supplies to China via the Burma Road. Desperate to keep the Japanese fighting on two fronts, the Allies air dropped supplies and built the Ledo Road through Bhamo to supply China. The Ledo Road was eventually named the Stillwell Road after an American General and was completed in early 1945. American veterans of the China-Burma-India campaigns referred to the jungle terrain surrounding the famous Burma Road and Ledo Road as the “Green Hell.” (Catholic Standard, 18 Feb. 1949). This difficult terrain is where Fr. Thomas Walsh worked.
There are various accounts of the internment by the Japaneese of the Columban Fathers in Burma. In May 1942 when the Japanese Imperial Army captured Bhamo the missionaries were held for a month, released and ordered to report to Mandalay. At Mandalay they were assigned to a house in the Agricultural College. They were bombed incessantly by the Allies as they were surrounded by Japanese troops. They were moved to St. John’s Leper Asylum (James Durney, “The Emperor’s Kildare Slaves”(2013) http://www.kildare.ie/library/ehistory/2013/07/the_emprerors_kildare_slaves.asp ).
According to a March 1946 interview of Mgr. Usher he recalled that from October 1942, twenty-one of the priests of the Maynooth Mission were interned in Mandalay. Two of his priests were interned in Rangoon and two others had crossed into India via China. For the last 18 months of the war the Mandalay internees were interned in the leper hospital with about 500 leper patients and most of the other missionaries from northern Burma including a number of French and Italian missionaries. Mgr. Usher stated, “To be staying in a leper hospital is not as terrible as it may seem for those who, like us, were used to seeing lepers. It is certainly not pleasant to see sufferers from the disease, but the disease itself is not very contagious” (Catholic Standard, 29 March 1946). St. John’s Leper Hospital was conducted by the Franciscan Missionaries of Mary (Catholic Standard, 18 May 1945).
Contrary to the majority of films and books describing the brutal and inhumane treatment of civilians interned by the Japanese during the war, Monsignor Usher stated, “We were not treated too badly by the Japanese. They did not do very much for us, but they did not do much against us. They did not interfere with our private life. We could say Mass, but were not permitted to carry out our priestly duties.” He noted that it was a great worry that their parishioners were without priests for so long. He also said that the priests missed not having any communication with their relatives at home. They read all the books they could lay their hands on. When Monsignor Usher was asked about food, he stated that they were never hungry, although they did not have a variety of food. They lived mostly on rice, with some vegetables, tea and coffee. He stated that other missionaries fared much worse than they did. Mandalay was a good rice-growing area and was fairly self-supporting. (Catholic Standard, 29 March 1946).
As the Allies were fighting to liberate Mandalay on the 16th of March 1945, Father Thomas Murphy (of Naas) and a number of other priests were saying Mass at different altars in the oratory when a shell burst over the one story building mortally wounding Father Murphy and injuring five or six of the other priests (Catholic Standard, 29 March 1946). Father Thomas Walsh, (of Waterford) was one of the other priests wounded by the shrapnel. Although he had shrapnel wounds in both arms and with his back laid open with a great gash, he “hoisted on his back the first man he could see through the blinding dust and carried him to the dispensary conducted by missionary Nuns.” (Irish Press, 17 Dec. 1945).
The Rev. Edward J. McCarthy, sent a cablegram to the Columban’s, in Nebraska reporting Fr, Murphy’s death during the battle for the liberation of the priests. He explained that Fr. Murphy, was at one of the side altars, and was badly wounded when the shell exploded overhead. Fr. Murphy was anointed and died two hours later as he was being carried behind British lines. With the exception of the two Columban priests held in Rangoon, all Columban priests held by the Japanese in the Burma area were freed that day. (Catholic Standard, 18 May 1945).
After the War
Fr. Thomas Walsh after recovering from the wounds he received on 16 March 1945 returned to Bhamo in September. In early October he journeyed the 60 miles to his former mission station in Namhapalan and made a “complete tour of his district and found the position on the whole satisfactory.” Although his parishioners had been without a priest since 1942 the majority kept their faith (Usher, Letter 13 Dec. 1945). Most of the buildings used by the mission had been destroyed (Catholic Standard, 29 March 1946) and Fr. Thomas set about re-building his school which Msg. Usher noted was no easy task at that time (Usher, Letter 13 Dec. 1945).
In late November 1945, Fr. Thomas fell ill with malaria. He took a course of treatment, but after nine days when he could not shake off the illness he decided he needed to go to the hospital in Bhamo. His parishioners carried him to the foot of the hills and on the road he was picked up by an American truck and taken to the hospital in Bhamo. For three days he appeared to be improving, but on the 10th of December he took a turn for the worse. His lungs became congested. He received the last Sacrament fully conscious and did not have much pain. Although two Franciscan Sisters took turns staying at his bed side, and the hospital nurses and doctors did everything possible, Fr. Thomas died at 9:15 on the morning of the 13th of December 1945 of malaria at the age of 34. Msg. Usher wrote two personal paragraphs on the back of the letter he wrote that day. He noted the paragraphs were not for the Far East magazine. On the back of the page Msg. Usher expressed his grief and noted that the death of Fr. Thomas “is a terrible blow to us.” They had lost one of their very best missionaries and friend. He expressed that Fr. Thomas’ flock would be very saddened as “his people had a great affection for him. They could hardly help it because he had such an ardent affection for them” (Usher, Letter 13 Dec. 1945). Fr. Thomas Walsh was buried in the Christian Cemetery in Bhamo, Burma.
Gone But Not Forgotten
In a letter to his parents written a few months before his death, Fr. Thomas stated that had been offered an extended holiday in Ireland, but decided to stay at his post (Catholic Standard, 21 Dec. 1945). His father, James Walsh, Sr., died on the 10th of February 1956, at the age of 91, after falling while walking along the Quay in Waterford. His obituary stated that he was a native of Thomastown and worked for Strangman’s Brewery for 50 years until his retirement in 1936. Interment took place at the family burial ground at Glenmore (Munster Express, 17 Feb. 1956). His mother, Catherine Walsh née O’Sullivan died on the 5th of October 1970 at the age of 95. Her obituary in the Munster Express (9 Oct. 1970) reveals that one of Fr. Thomas’ nephews became a priest. Rev. Seamus (Fr. Majella) Cullen. O.F.M. was ordained in 1968 and was working in Rhodesia, Africa in 1970.
The Maynooth Mission to China, expanded in 1949, but by 1966 all missionaries were expelled from Burma. Only those who had been in the country prior to 1948 were allowed to remain. However, if a missionary left the country he or she could not return. The last of the Columbans left in 1977 (Fr. Pat O’Donoghue, “A Great Harvest, 24 June 2020 available at https://columbans.co.uk/a-great-harvest.) Eventually restrictions on missionaries eased, Burma has become Myanmar, and in 2010 Columban Father Neil Magill turned the old, disused, leper hospital, where the missionaries were interned by the Japanese during the war, into a higher education institution (Far East, Sept. 2015, “Education for the Poorest, but Brightest.”) In 2014 five Kachin priests were ordained and Fr. Bosco N-lam Hkun Seng when interviewed stated that his grandfather converted to Catholicism and his father studied in a Columban Mission School in Myitkina under Father Thomas Walsh who died of malaria in 1945 (Far East, March 2014).
Special thanks to Barbara Scally, Archivist, Columban Fathers, Dalgan Park and Louise Walsh for taking all the photos of the Glenmore headstones.
Dr. Kathleen Moore Walsh
For further information on Columban Father Thomas Murphy (1906-1945) of Naas, Kildare, see Columban Martyrs available at https://columbans.ie/about-us/columban-martyrs/
The Far East archive is available at https://www.columban.org.au/media-and-publications/the-far-east-magazine/archive/
The featured photo above of the fresco of St. Columban, was taken in 2007 by Davide Papalini – http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Brugnato-IMG_0141.JPG
For information regarding the work addressing leprosy in Burma/Myanmar see, https://leprosyhistory.org/geographical_region/country/myanmar
Glenmore Fishing and Weirs
For generations Glenmore men, and at least one woman, fished the River Barrow. Some of fishermen were also farmers and others were cottagers working on farms when needed part of the year and fishing the remainder of the year. Although the River Barrow is home to several different types of fish and eel, the king of the catch was the salmon. (For a list of the type of fish of the Barrow see, http://riverbarrow.net/fishing.html .) Danny Dowling interviewed and recorded various aspects of local fishing in the 1970’s as fishing declined significantly.
Nicky Forristal, of the Mill, Graiguenakill, Glenmore in June 1977 identified five fishing “pools” on the River Barrow that Glenmore fishermen fished. All of the fishing pools identified had Irish names and were described as follows:
- Thowshkeen—above Cherry’s Brewery at Ross, mid-river.
- Ling Voor—off Castle Annaghs. From Stafford’s wharf to turn of Camblin.
- Lahóge—Between Maid’s Quay and Glenmore Pill.
- Málya—Between Glenmore Pill and Carrickcloney strand.
- Corrigalú—On Wexford side almost opposite Tommy Connolly’s, of the river, at Aylwardstown. Below Dunganstown Quay wood of the same name.
Patrick Hennessey, of Hoodsgrove, Rosbercon, in February 1980 identified seven fishing “ponds,” on the Barrow and Nore Rivers. All of the fishing ponds identified by Patrick Hennessy are also in Irish.
- Ling Voor—in Barrow off Camblin.
- Ling Beg—in Barrow at bridge of Ross.
- Thowshtheen—in Barrow at Ross side of railway bridge.
- Vawnúg—at Barrow mouth. Confluence of Nore and Barrow.
- Pawl Útha—in Nore under Luke Hennessy’s of Glensensaw.
- Portloss—in Nore at Ballyneale.
- Scíordhawns—in Nore under Lambert’s of Newgrove.
Michael Forristal, of Rochestown, Glenmore in 1969 stated that there were 14 fishing boats at the Black Rock, Kearneybay and at one time 40 boats were fishing the river. John Power, of Carrigcloney, Glenmore, in February 1970 identified the fishermen with boats who trawled the Malya around the turn of the twentieth century.
- Tommy Power of Robinstown (own boat).
- Jim Scanlan, Glenmore (own boat.)
- Jimmy Forristel, The Mill (own boat).
- Pat Kennedy, Duganstown, Co. Wexford (own boat).
- Patsy Hough, Rochestown (own boat).
- Jack Forristal, Rochestown (own boat).
- Micky Foran, Rochestown (own boat).
Salmon was then about 6 d. per lb. Salmon was so plentiful that asses and carts were required to transport it away. The fish were generally sold in Ross. A man named Murphy was identified as a New Ross fish buyer.
However, some boats were owned by people who did not live along the river. Nicky Forristal, of the Mill, Graiguenakill (Nov. 1977) told Danny that Patsy Henneberry (Mártín) of Jamestown, and Bill Roche, of Jamestown, (Main Roche’s father) owned between them a cot which they fished in for at least one season. Patsy Henneberry was going with another crew on this particular season, and he asked Roche, “how will we settle about the cot?” Roche replied “we can do nothing with her except cut her in halves.” No matter what Henneberry suggested, Roche would not agree, so in the end Henneberry, rather than see it cut in halves, left it to Roche.
Nicky Forristal (1888-1979) in his 1977 interview also described to Danny the fish joulter’s cars that he observed as a young man. This horse drawn vehicle with four wheels, had high sides and was used by the fish dealers in Ross, Enniscorthy and Graiguenamanagh. They traveled in convoys of up to 8 or 9 cars by the Mill on their way to Dunmore to collect sea fish. They would leave in the day, pass by the Mill in the evening, stay overnight in Dunmore, and return the next day. He was told that they travelled in a convoy to let some of the drivers sleep for part of the journey and the cars and the fish would be minded by the other drivers.
Brian Forristal in an interview of Tommy Connolly, of the river, (1907-1987) recorded that Tommy recalled a time when 30 or 40 boats were on the river during the salmon season. Tommy and his crew, in the 1961-1962 season, held the record for the number of salmon caught in one sweep. They were fishing in the “Mallagh” and caught 65 salmon during the one run and on the next they caught another 20 or so. The haul was so heavy it took several crews to help them pull in the net.
Weirs on the Barrow River
An interesting article appeared in the Dublin Penny Journal (30 Jan. 1836, available at https://www.jstor)org/stable/30003343) concerning the fishing of “the famed salmon of the Barrow.” The author a man from New Ross described the salmon fishing as follows: “a net is dropped between two small boats called ‘cots.’ (The author described the cot as a small boat generally built of four or five boards.) Each cot holds two men, one holds the net, while the other ‘conducts the cot with a paddle, shaped like a shovel.’” It was noted by the author that upwards of four hundred individuals earn a comfortable livelihood during the fishing seasons. This livelihood came under threat in 1834 when large Scotch weirs, some nearly a mile in extent, were illegally placed at the mouth of the Waterford harbour. One of these weirs frequently caught five hundred salmon each tide. “Impelled by hunger and despair” the up-river fishermen could not wait for the legal prosecution of the weir owners. Men manned two hundred cots and armed with hatchets and saws they left New Ross one morning cut down the nets of the giant Scotch weirs and returned with the returning tide, exhausted having travelled nearly 50 miles. “The lovers of cheap salmon welcomed their return with three hearty cheers, and made a handsome collection to buy bread and beer to refresh these nautical heroes.”
Although the newspapers of the nineteenth century are full of fishing prosecutions and inquiries there is one article in the Dublin Daily Express of 15 December 1863 that identifies and discusses three weirs in Glenmore parish and the people associated with them sometimes going back to 1800, namely: the Ballyverneen weir; the Carney (sic) Bay weir; and the Rochestown weir. Under an Act of Parliament, the Fisheries Commission was appointed to investigate the rights and titles of parties to fisheries by means of fixed weirs and to decide whether they were an obstruction to navigation.
Ballyverneen Weir
Dr. Joseph P. Mackesy, Esq. was identified as the landlord and Michael Irish was the occupier of the weir who paid rent for it. Robert Brazil measured the weir and advised the Commission that it was 59 yards from the end of the enter ring to the shore. At the outside pole it was in 30 feet of water, and at the upper end of the channel wing there was 24 feet of water at full tide. Pilot William Fortune testified and referred to it as the Pink Rock weir. He stated that the tide sets right into it and said that it was an obstruction to navigation of a vessel when “working up a vessel, coming up with a flood tide.” Daniel Walsh testified that his brother fished the weir in 1801 and he took it after that. Daniel testified that he was about 72 years of age. The nets were cut down by the cot men once since he took the weir. It never happened again. He never knew a gabbard or ship to be tangled in the Ballyverneen weir. Thomas Mullally, Dr. Mackessy’s rent-warner, testified that he had no recollection of being told of any damage being done to the weir by boats. “There is a good flood tide going into the weir.”
The Commission deemed the weir injurious to navigation and the public right of fishing. It ordered the removal of the weir.
Kearneybay Weir
The landlord was Col. Kearney and the occupant was Thomas Murphy. [Update: Danny Dowling stated on 20 July 2020 that Col. Kearney lived near the Carlow border and only resided in Kearneybay for a short time.] The weir was described as a “head weir.” Robin Brazil testified that from the shore to the extreme end of the channel wing of the weir measured 72 yards. At spring high water he found the depth of 27 feet at the end of the channel wing. Gabbards, boats and vessels pass up and down the river by this weir. Michael Barron a boatman testified that in his opinion the weir made navigating the river difficult. James Bolger a boatman trading up and down the river testified that he did not think it was injurious. Thomas Wall, a Kearneybay farmer, testified that the weir had been there as long as he could remember for the past 65 or 66 years. It was fished as a salmon weir during that time and before that it was fished by Andrew Neil and Mark Brine.
Thomas Murphy testified that he was the tenant of the weir for the past 12 years since his father died. He paid £5 rent per year to Col. Kearney the landlord. He had helped fish it for the past 40 years. He stated that to his knowledge Col. Kearney and his ancestors owned the weir for over 200 years. Thomas Murphy stated his father fished it for 45 years as a salmon weir. He never heard of a complaint that it was an obstruction to navigation. Murphy noted that at high water the breadth of the river was about 300 yards. About 30 or 40 yards of the weir were stripped out at low spring tides. It was a flood weir. There were no complaints made to him about a boat going into the weir, but he admitted it was injured by a vessel going against it about 15 years earlier.
The Commission ruled that no evidence was given to sustain the title and that there was evidence that it was injurious to navigation. It ordered the weir be removed.
The Rochestown Weir
The owner of the weir was identified as Peter Strange, J.P. The occupier was Joseph Hunt. The weir was described as a flood weir. Hunt testified that he held the weir under a lease of 21 years for which he paid 1 shilling per year. His father purchased the lease for 21 years for £80, 12 years earlier leaving 9 years still on the lease. Hunt stated that the weir does not pose an obstruction to navigation. John Crook testified that he had worked the weir for the past 60 years and it was always used for salmon. Myles Dempsey, a boatman for twenty years, testified that he did not think that the weir caused an obstruction to navigation. The newspaper report does not provide further detail and the Commission ultimately decided that the weir should be abated, and it if was not removed after the proper lapse of time (assumed to be the remainder of the lease) it would issue a warrant for its removal.
The featured drawing is from the Dublin Penny Journal (30 Jan. 1836, available at https://www.jstor)org/stable/30003343) and depicts Castle Annaghs which was located on the Barrow River in Kilkenmy between Glenmore and New Ross. In the foreground is a cot and two fishermen.
For further information concerning local fishing, Andrew Doherty’s blog Waterford Harbour Tides & Tales see, for example “Growing Up Amongst Nets,” https://tidesandtales.ie/growing-up-amongst-nets/ .
Dr. Kathleen Moore Walsh
Wed & Dead Within a Week: The Widow’s Update
On the 21st of June we posted an article concerning the tragic circumstances surrounding the wedding and death of James Aylward, of Parkstown, Glenmore in 1909. Although the bride widow, Catherine (Kate) Aylward née Gaul was located in the 1911 census living with her father and brothers in Ballynooney West, of Rosbercon no further records could be located.
We are happy to report that through the help of a reader we were able to speak with a great-niece of the lady and learned that the woman widowed while on her honeymoon re-married, had four children and lived in Castlecomer, Co. Kilkenny.
We were not able to locate a marriage record for the widow Catherine (Kate) Aylward née Gaul but we were able to find a child born in Moyhora, Castlecomer on the 31st of July 1916 to Michael Murphy and Kate Murphy née Gaul. The child was named Kate Murphy. Unfortunately the public birth records end in 1919 and we were unable to discover the names of the other three children.
In terms of the Gaul family it was verified that the father, Luke Gaul, died on 7 February 1917 at the age of 70 and Kate had two brothers. John born on 19 April 1873 married and stayed on the Ballynooney farm. William Gaule was born on 23 September 1879; he married Honara Dalton and farmed in Keatingstown, Hugginstown, Co. Kilkenny. They had eight children. It was said that Honara lived to be 101 years of age.
Lastly, Cissy Kennedy, a native of Rathinure, Glenmore, aged 90 verified last week that John Joe Aylward of Parkstown, Glenmore (nephew of the tragic groom) had a sister Nellie Aylward who married a farmer from Wexford and had two sons.
Below is the headstone bearing the name of the tragic groom located during the recent survey of the Glenmore cemetery.
Dr. Kathleen Moore Walsh
Glenmore in the 1860’s
In searching for information on one subject in local newspapers it is quite common to come across interesting articles relating to Glenmore or its people. The following articles were recently discovered concerning events in Glenmore in the 1860’s. Although it is generally known that there were several local murders of landlords in the 19th century Danny Dowling stated this week that he was not aware of the manslaughter of John Kelly of Graiguenakill by his friend Thomas Forrestal in 1862. The majority of incidents in the articles below occurred after a Waterford fair and we previously highlighted that it was in early 1867 that ice took down the New Ross Bridge. For an account of the 1867 bridge collapse see our post of 14 December 2019.
Manslaughter of John Kelly of Graiguenakill, Glenmore–1862
In the Penny Despatch and Irish Weekly Newspaper on Saturday the 25th of October 1862 it received a report dated the 18th from Kilkenny that a quarrel took place in Kilkenny between John Kelly, a farmer’s son, residing at Graiguenakill, and Thomas Forrestal. The two men were returning from the fair of Waterford, on the 6th of October, when Forrestal drew a knife and stabbed Kelly in the breast, penetrating the right lung. Kelly lingered until the 15th of October when he died from his wound. Previous to Kelly’s death Walter Sweetman, Esq., J.P., attempted to take his dying declaration, but Kelly refused to give the name of the party who stabbed him. An inquest was held on the I6th of October, at which an unnamed witness testified that Kelly told him he was stabbed by Forrestal. The jury indicted Forrestal for manslaughter. Forrestal absconded. The newspaper article concludes by reporting that both Kelly and Forrestal were under the influence of liquor at the time of the “unfortunate occurrence.”
The Trial of Thomas Forrestal–1863
The Saunder’s News-Letter of Wednesday the 29th of July 1863 reported on the trial of Thomas Forrestal for the manslaughter of John Kelly during the Kilkenny Summer Assizes on the 28th of July 1863. The defendant, Thomas Forrestal is described as a respectable farmer and he was defended by Mr. P. White. From the article it appears that Thomas Forrestal on the 21st of October 1862 surrendered to the police and was jailed for nine months as he awaited his trial. The case was prosecuted by Sergeant Armstrong, Messrs. Wall, Q.C., and Curtis. The principal witness for the Crown was Philip Walsh.
Philip Walsh testified that on the 6th of October 1862 he was at the fair in Waterford, with Forrestal and the deceased Kelly. They had ridden into Waterford, and on the way home in the evening, Kelly appeared have fallen upon the road, for his clothes were covered with dust. Forrestal suggested to Kelly to get into a creel, but Kelly said he would walk. [For our international readers a creel, was made when slated wooden sides were added to a horse’s cart to form a sort of cage to convey pigs or a calf to market. The creel sides would slot into the cart and add between two or three feet to the four sides of the cart.]
The three men “proceeded accordingly” on the road as far as the house of a man named Donovan. It was surmised by Danny that this may have been Donovan of the Mill at Ballyrowrah as this was near the junction of the old Waterford to New Ross post road (today known as the High Road) and the New Line (today the N. 25). [Regarding these two roads, see, Glenmore: Between Waterford and New Ross, posted 14 Dec. 2019] The three men remained for some time at Donovan’s. Kelly at first refused to leave the place with Forrestal. The witness Walsh testified that Kelly wished to court a girl who was there.
Eventually, the witness Walsh, with Forrestal and Kelly, proceeded from Donovan’s, and Forrestal was angry with Kelly for delaying. The witness stated that he said to the defendant Forrestal, “Tom, have sense.” The witness Walsh then left Kelly and Forrestal and crossed the field for a short cut, leaving the others on the public highway. Walsh heard some altercation in the distance, and a voice he considered to be Kelly’s saying first, “Keep out of that,” and afterwards, “That is the worst turn that ever you done.”
The next witness called was James Hanrahan who testified that the morning after this occurrence he went to Forrestal’s house, and informed him that the police were coming. Forrestal and Hanrahan left Forrestal’s house before the police arrived. Constable Powell testified that Kelly was wounded on his left side by a knife, which cut through his shirt. Kelly died on the 15th of October, and on the 21st Forrestal surrendered to the police. When Forrestal surrendered he told Constable Powell “that there was a bad case against him.” [Constable Powell when he retired from the RIC became the first postmaster of Glenmore, see, The Glenmore Post Office: Its Rise and Demise posted 24 Nov. 2019]
Forrestal’s counsel submitted that there was not sufficient proof that the voice heard on the road was that of Kelly, and that in any event the accused might have been defending himself from the attack of an excited drunken man. The dying declaration of Kelly was given in evidence, in which he said he did not know who wounded him and he had himself to blame for what occurred. The article concludes that Forrestal received the highest character reference, was found guilty, and sentenced to three months’ imprisonment. Given that Forrestal had spent nine months in jail awaiting his trial the three months’ sentence gave him a total period of incarceration of 12 months for the manslaughter. Unfortunately the townlands of the defendant Forrestal and the witnesses were not provided nor any of the ages of the victim, defendant or witnesses making it difficult to identify these persons.
Another Assault after the Waterford Fair—1864
The Waterford Mail on Monday the 16th of May 1864 reported the following: “Ferocious Assault—Mr. John Costello, a respectable farmer from the vicinity of Glenmore, while returning from the Waterford May fair on the 4th, was met near the Glenmore Police-station, by James Irish at the head of party. Irish knocked Costello out of the car with a blow of a stick, and while on the ground struck him several times on the head with a large stone. A man named Delany came to the assistance of Costello, and Irish fled. Costello reached the barrack in an exhausted state. His assailant has absconded.”
Killed on the Way to a Funeral–1864
The Waterford Mirror & Tramore Visitor on Wednesday the 12th of October 1864 reported that on Tuesday a man was killed when he fell from his horse while attending the funeral of a man named Irish. Irish had been killed on Monday evening when he too fell from his horse. “It was stated that the melancholy occurrence [on Tuesday] took place near Carriganurra, on the road leading to Glenmore, the destination of the [Irish] funeral.” The article concludes that this was the third death which took place in this “melancholy” manner within the past week.
Killed from Fall Off Horse Coming Home from Waterford Fair–1866
It was reported in the Waterford Mirror & Tramore Visitor on Wednesday the 21st of November 1866 that an inquest was held at Parkstown, near Glenmore, by T. Izod. Esq., Coroner on the body of Patrick Murphy, a labourer. Murphy fell from a young horse on the 1st of November when he was returning from the fair of Waterford. Murphy lingered until the 5th of November when he died. “A verdict was returned that deceased died from paralisis (sic), caused by injury to the spine from the effects of the fall.”
Police Raids at Cat’s Rock–1867
In the Waterford Mirror & Tramore Visitor of Wednesday the 24th of April 1867 it was reported that the police of Kilmacow, Mullinavat and Glenmore Police Stations, under Constables Warde and Powell, have been to Cat’s Rock, in the Glenmore District,, and searched several house for concealed arms or other “contraband of war” but without success. No further information was supplied regarding why the inhabitants were suspected of having arms or other “contraband of war” and no further articles were found on the subject.
The featured drawing above is from 1849 found in the Miriam and Ira D. Wallach Division of Art, Prints and Photographs: Picture Collection, The New York Public Library. “Appearance Of Ye Crymynyal Courte Dvryng An “Interestyng” Tryal For Mvrder.” The New York Public Library Digital Collections. http://digitalcollections.nypl.org/items/510d47e1-0cbd-a3d9-e040-e00a18064a99
Dr. Kathleen Moore Walsh
Blog update—we are pleased to announce that two guest articles from Brian Forristal were published earlier in the week on our guest author page. These articles are stories recorded by Brian as told to him by Tommy “of the river” Connolly (1907-1987) concerning Tommy’s experiences as a boy in Aylwardstown, Glenmore during the War of Independence.
Grave Inscriptions—We have completed a survey of the headstones in the churchyard adjacent to St. James the Glenmore parish church, and we are in the process of placing all the inscriptions in a searchable file. The searchable file we hope to put on the blog (technology permitting) and the photos of the markers are being also submitted to Find a Grave to allow descendants around the world to view the headstones.
Glenmore 19th Century Sports: Cricket and Weight-Throwing
Most people today know that Glenmore produced some high achieving athletes. The 20th century hurling and football teams, and indeed a four legged Glenmore bred athlete that won Cheltenham gold, are well known. Today, at the request of a reader we are going to highlight two of the lesser known Glenmore sports of the 19th century, cricket and weight-throwing and hope that readers might be able to provide more information.
Cricket
In the late 1950’s Danny Dowling interviewed Jim Culleton (1867-1962), of Kilbride, Glenmore who at the time of the interview was one of the oldest members of the parish of Glenmore. When Jim died a few years later in 1962, he was 95 1/2 years of age. Jim informed Danny that in his father’s time Kilbride had a good cricket team. Jim’s father, John Culleton (1836-1882) died aged 46 in 1882. Jim stated that prior to the GAA (Gaelic Athletic Association), being established cricket was very popular in Glenmore. (For a concise history of the organisation see, https://www.gaa.ie/the-gaa/history/ ). Jim Culleton was able to recite a verse from a local song, “Kilbride Cricketers” that was composed in honour of the team.
“I have been at Kilbride Crickets on the 8th April last, I have been in many places during thirteen summers past, Pleasures sure, I always had but pleasure I cannot describe, I enjoyed them beyond measure on the green hills of Kilbride.”
Although an extensive newspaper search was made for any matches played by the Kilbride cricket team, or a Glenmore parish cricket team, none could be located. However, there are reports in newspapers in the 1890’s concerning the Raheen and Rosbercon cricket teams. Although fields have been identified as the practice fields for later Glenmore Gaelic football teams, no field was ever identified to Danny as the field where cricket was played in Glenmore.
According to the Cricket Ireland website, cricket by the mid 1850’s had become the most popular sport in Ireland and was blind to class or creed. In 1855, the first team to represent Ireland beat the English team by a 107 run “thrashing.” (See, https://www.cricketireland.ie/about/history ). While cricket may have become popular in Ireland by 1855, a review of newspapers articles from the south east suggests that it was more popular and commonly reported on in urban areas. The Waterford Steamship Co. announced on 18 June 1879 that it was running “their favourite river Steamer ‘Ida’ to New Ross” on the 1st of July for those who wished to attend the cricket match at Ross. “Several metropolitan amateur athletes intend coming down to see what they can do…1 s. 6 d. for the double journey.” (New Ross Standard, Wed. 18 June 1879). It is believed the athletes referenced were coming down from Dublin.
Although it has been asserted that cricket was blind to class an article in 1879 clearly indicates that engagement in sport was a luxury not provided to the poor. Most of Glenmore was in the Waterford Poor Law Union which meant that children of the Glenmore poor were taken to the Waterford workhouse. In 1879 a motion was made to provide a playground for the boy inmates of the workhouse to play sports such as cricket. At a special meeting of the Poor Law Guardians a motion was made to set aside half an acre on the grounds of the workhouse to provide a playground for healthy recreation. The proposer reminded the other Guardians that the boys were “inmates” through no fault of their own. “It was a pitiful site to see those poor boys caged like prisoners within the precincts of the workhouse without anything to relieve the dull monotony of their lives.” It was decided by these civic leaders of the day, that the duty of the Guardians was to provide training to make the boys into farm labourers and therefore useful members of society. Teaching them to play cricket or football was not necessary. One Guardian warned that the boys might regard the workhouse as home and seek to return to it if a playground was allowed. A vote was taken and the Guardians rejected the playground by a vote of 10 to 6. (Waterford Standard, 5 Nov. 1879).
Weight Throwing
According to Paul Rouse the author of Sport and Ireland: A History (2015, OUP, Kindle Ed.) weight throwing and running and jumping were woven into the fabric of rural life. Men gathered on Sunday evenings or during long summer evenings and competed. “Weight throwing was perceived to be a great form of exercise and was practiced in many variations across the countryside.” (Rouse 2015, p. 139). It was only in the 1860’s and 1870’s, that formal athletic events and associations were organized in towns, cities, and villages across Ireland. A contemporary and very condescending article on Irish athletics was published in London in the Illustrated Sporting and Dramatic News on 6 May 1875. With respect to Irish weight throwing, heavy weight throwing was considered good, however the 16 pound or hammer throwing was considered bad “as it is little practiced.” Notwithstanding the 1875 opinions concerning Irish weight throwing, Rouse notes that the tradition of weight throwing in Ireland “…was the back story to the extraordinary success enjoyed by Irishmen in the Olympic Games throwing competitions after 1896” (Rouse 2015, p. 139).
No newspapers accounts of weight-throwing events in Glenmore were located. However, the New Ross Standard of 14 Sept. 1889 does provide information concerning the events of the programme held in the Rower, Kilkenny. There were 21 events, 14 of which were open to all comers. There were two weight throwing events, slinging 56 lbs between legs without follow, in “the usual way in which this weight is thrown when a number of young fellows meet for ‘diversion,’ and throwing 7 lbs with follow.”
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Within ten years the local newspapers covered a greater number of weight throwing events and results. For example, in 1899 an all-round weight throwing and jumping competition was held in Carrick-on-Suir. “The weather was most unfavourable, yet the competitors decided to have the issue tried out, and the contest was held amidst a heavy downpour of rain. Kiely had three firsts—7 lbs (standard 78 ft), 80 ft 3 in; hammer from 7 ft circle (standard 115 ft), 142 ft 6in; slinging 56 lbs unlimited run and follow (standard 30 ft.), 35 ft 6 in. Horgan had also three firsts—throwing 14 lbs (standard 48 ft), 50 ft 9in ; putting shot, 7 ft circle (standard 35 ft), 42 ft 5 inches ; putting 28 lbs (standard, 29 ft), 33 ft 4in.; Phelan, Mullinahone, was the third with a trio of events: pushing 56 lbs (standard 20 ft), 21 ft 2 in; slinging 56 lbs between legs with follow (standard 25 ft), 27 ft 8 in; slinging, 56 lbs over bar (standard 12 ft), 12ft 3in.” (New Ross Standard, Sat. 4 Nov. 1899).
A weight-throwing champion from Glenmore is found recorded in the National Folklore Collection. In 1935 young Paddy Kennedy (1922-1997), of Rathinure interviewed his father Patrick Kennedy, Sr. (c. 1868-1951) concerning a Glenmore weight-thrower named William Forristal, of Ballyverneen. (Nat’l Folklore Collection UCD, The School’s Collection, vol. 845, p. 13, Ringville School Roll 6621.)
Patrick Kennedy, Sr. stated that 60 years previously William Forristal, of Ballyverneen was noted for his strength. He was a champion weight thrower for several years. Once he threw in Wexford. To get there he had to cross the River Barrow and then walk seven or eight miles. He was put against the Wexford champion. After several heavy throws he was awarded the title which he never lost. He walked a further ten miles and was put against a man named Pat Kent who was champion of Belfast “and William’s success was never doubted.”
An extensive newspaper search was conducted but no articles could be located concerning William Forristal, of Ballyverneen or Pat Kent and weight-throwing. It is likely that these men competed before weight-throwing events were well organised and covered in newspapers.
A search then was conducted to determine if the William Forristal, of Ballyverneen, the weight-thrower circa 1875, could be identified. In the Tithe Applotment Books (Griffith’s Valuation 1830) there were only two tenants named Forristal in Ballyverneen; James Forrestal and Patrick Forrestal. The Glenmore parish records indicate that James Forristal of Ballyverneen married Bridget Dunhy and had a son William baptized on 23 June 1857. Patrick Forrestal (c. 1816-1901), of Ballyverneen married Ellen Kennedy (c. 1819-1887) and had a son named William baptized on 13 May 1851. The parish records reveal that in 1857 the James Forristal family moved to Graiguenakill as all the children born after 1857 are recorded in Graiguenakill. Thus in 1875 the only known William Forristal, of Ballyverneen was the son of Patrick Forristal and Ellen Kennedy.
Thus, it is very likely that William Forristal, the weight-throwing champion circa 1875, recalled by Patrick Kennedy, Sr., of Rathinure in 1935 was his first cousin Billy Forristal (1851-1931) who died at Mount Ida, Rochestown a few years earlier. Billy Forristal remained in Ballyverneen from his birth in 1851 until 1919 when he sold his farms in Ballyverneen and Rathinure to purchase Mount Ida, in Rochestown, Glenmore. Further, Tom Walsh (1908-1992) of Rathinure, formerly of Davidstown, often repeated stories he heard concerning young Billy Forristal. Tom Walsh’s father was also a first cousin to Billy. Billy was described as a big, strong, rough kind of man. Fairs were often rowdy affairs. When Billy was a young man attending the Waterford Fair with his father a dispute arose which was a common occurrence at fairs. As young Billy squared off to fight the other fellow to settle the dispute, his father Paddy, offered a wager to all on the outcome of the fight– “5 pounds on my Billy.” That was a great sum of money before 1900, and it is said that Paddy did not lose his money.
The featured photo above is the earliest drawing found depicting a weight thrower in the 19th century. It is a drawing of George Stephenson (1781-1848) throwing a hammer. The Miriam and Ira D. Wallach Division of Art, Prints and Photographs: Print Collection, The New York Public Library. George Stephenson throwing the hammer. Retrieved from http://digitalcollections.nypl.org/items/c5831e4d-c31d-1ecb-e040-e00a18067b87.
The cover of Ireland and Sport features a weight thrower.
Dr. Kathleen Moore Walsh